Mountainview Publishing, LLC INSIDE The Phil Brown Interview… Discover Apaches from Paris & the magic of a B-tuned guitar rendered through a heavy metal pulverizer called the Ampeg VL1002 9 Cruel Inventions… A track-by-track guide to all the gear the The Player’s Guide to Ultimate Tone $10.00 US, May 2004/VOL.5 NO.7 Report TM Phil Brown Unless you have been working as a producer, recording engineer, songwriter or session player in Los Angeles for the past 20 years, you may be wondering, “Who is Phil Brown and why does he rate the cover of ToneQuest?” On the other hand, if you have heard Phil Brown play the guitar, you understand. Completely. A reader recently asked when we were going to venture beyond the “blues/roots/rock” genré in TQR. Today, you got your wish, brother, but be careful what you ask for… Phil Brown’s Cruel Inventions incites intense scrutiny from guitarists and countless questions about his rig and play- 12 Lee Jackson on the design of the Ampeg VL Series 15 The Sexy Beast… Demeter TGA-3 16 Time has come today… The ToneQuest Hardtail 18 Ice Cream Cakes! Jason Lollar’s ‘Special’ Pickups photo courtesy of Patricia de Gorostarzu ing style that will be answered soon enough. But as Brown’s haunting melodic hooks subtly bind to your synapses, surrender any desire to conveniently categorize this artist. In his own words, “No one goes home humming a guitar solo.” Indeed, a well-crafted song is still the rare stuff that inspires guitar playing that eclipses the ordinary, and Phil Brown has devoted most of his life to www.tonequest.com cover story learning this lesson well. Brown showcases his talent with straightforward recording gear that is easily available to most of us today, and guitars and amplifiers that will never ascend to ‘Hall of Fame’ status among self-appointed ‘experts’ that deign to tell the rest of us what a truly exceptional instrument or amplifier is, and what they can never be. In choosing his tools, Phil Brown has taken the less-traveled path once described by Neil Young as the ditch that borders the middle of the road. Along the way, he quenched his quest for signature tone with a strange brew partially comprised of an early ‘70s Les Paul hacked out for a Floyd Rose tremolo, and an obscure, high-gain son-of-Metaltronix Ampeg VL1002 pummeling a vintage Marshall 8x10 cab. If that’s what it takes to create your own cool inventions, then let it be. You can’t dress like me… Cruel Inventions was originally released in Europe in 2003 by Philippe Langlois’ Dixie Frog records. Monsieur Langlois brought Rolling Stone magazine to France nearly 30 years ago, and while Phil Brown went unnoticed by record labels in America, the Euro’s warmly embraced the Apaches from Paris in spite of their L.A. zip code. And be forewarned — aside from re-orienting your molecules a bit, there is a palpable and seductive scent of sex in much of Brown’s music. For this, you should be properly prepared. Invite your significant other to a listening party and who knows what might happen? If the blues is all about good people feelin’ bad, Phil Brown and Apaches from Paris are about good people feeling good enough to be bad. Very bad. Now dim the lights, log on to tonequest.com, turn those speakers up, and Enjoy… TQR: Where did you grow up and when did you first answer the call to play guitar? I grew up in Los Alamos, New Mexico. I heard Bob Wills and his Texas Playboys when I was about 5 years old and I can remember wanting to play that music on the guitar really bad. The next year I started studying violin and I kept that up until I was about 14. Los Alamos is a real unusual community… There was a guitar teacher and scientist there named Joe Mariner who was very good friends with Chet Atkins, so some of the first music I heard that really killed me was Chet Atkins and Andrés Segovia. Around this time, I had a neighbor whose dad had a guitar that he had gotten prior to World War II, and I bought it for fifty cents. I think I mowed two lawns for it. I could only play two strings, but I always had good rhythm, and I used those little plastic tabs that you get on a loaf of bread for guitar picks. But the guitar thing really started happening for me like this… I always loved guitars, and there was a music teacher I had named Adele Bradbury. Her husband was Eugene Bradbury, the president of Los Alamos, and he was Oppenheimer’s assistant during the Manhattan Project. She found me one day at a store and she said, “Phil Brown, come over here. Let me see your fingers. You have calluses. You’d better slow down and catch your dream or it’s going to kill you.” I had no idea what she was talking about (laughing) but I absolutely adored this woman, and she took me to her house and gave me a Gibson guitar and told me she wanted me to join the Glee Club. The next morning I was there at 6 a.m. with the guitar and I just kept playing and learning. At this same time, my cousin came to see me and he taught me barre chords and the importance of economy of movement. For example, do you make a D chord with your first finger on the G string or your second finger? If you use your second finger, the third finger stays put and you just change the position of your first and middle finger to play a C or G. I eventually quit playing the violin and started playing saxophone. I also got into surf music and Duane Eddy, and I can remember seeing a band for the first time with Fender amplifiers at Disneyland, of all places. Two of the amps had red pilot lights and two were blue, and with that silver sparkle grill cloth shining in the lights, I just wanted one so badly. I bought a bass guitar when I was about 14, and I discovered two of my favorite bands — Moby Grape and The Yardbirds. I loved anything that had the sustain of that violin-type distorted guitar sound. Jeff Beck was one of my favorites… he reminded me of one of those guys that could skip a rock across a lake 17 times before it sank. His sound just spoke to me. Then I heard Jimi Hendrix when I was 15 years old… There were two guys in town — the Johnson twins — and they were huge Bob Dylan fans. Their father had brought home Are You Experienced and they asked me if I would trade them for one of my Bob Dylan records. I raced over to their house on my bike, they gave me the Hendrix record, and we put it on my parent’s stereo, which we weren’t allowed to turn up past ‘2.’ We put Jimi on and my brother said, “Boy, are we gonna get in trouble!” And my dad actually did walk in one day and ask, “What’s this on the stereo?” The Who were really big for me, too, especially “My Generation.” -continued- 2 TONEQUEST REPORT V5. N7. May 2004 cover story TQR: Were you able to see any of these bands? Well, that wasn’t happening in Los Alamos, but I did see Rudy and the Hard Times… they had a song called “Fortune Teller” that was later redone on the Who’s Live at Leeds record, and I saw the band on Where the Action Is. Living in Los Alamos, shows like Hullabaloo and Shindig were really important, and the British Invasion was really important to me. When I was 17 years old, I got a scholarship to go to Kansas University in Lawrence, Kansas. There was a half a million watt radio station out of Oklahoma City called KOMA that played every cool song you could imagine, so I’m buried under the covers with my cheap little Japanese transistor radio, right? “Appearing live at the Red Dog Inn… The Flippers, The Apsotles, If, The Frantics, The Blue Things…” All of these incredible bands duplicated the sounds of the records you heard on the radio to the ‘T.’ I cut my first recording in a four-piece band in Kansas, playing bass. I really didn’t know how to play lead guitar at the time, and I just loved the bass. I have always loved low end. I studied guitar, but it wasn’t a passion for me. Bass just killed me — players like James Jamerson, Ron Carter and Jack Bruce… any of the symphonies of Beethoven, Mozart, Handel… music with sweeping bass lines really moved me. And I guess it gave me a great appreciation for how you go about composing music. That was the next step for me, because then I left school and ended up grabbing a guitar and a suitcase and a dream, and I hitchhiked around the country for close to five years. I’d go to a town, find the best band, ask to sit in, and kind of like a gunslinger, smoke the band’s guitarist and a couple of days later I’d have his gig. I can’t tell you how many times that happened (laughing). TQR: During what period of time? 1969-1974. Denver, Louisiana, Kansas City, Cleveland, Pittsburgh… I was in Los Angeles in 1970 and I got a job at S.I.R. driving a truck. I delivered equipment to places like the Capitol Records studios. The first day at work, Three Dog Night is in one room rehearsing and Alice Cooper is in the next room. Four hours later Joe Cocker is there and Humble Pie is in the next room. And at night I worked at The Whiskey. There was just something about the entire entertain- ment scene — it’s a lifestyle, kind of like carnies… You ever been to a carnival? TQR: Sure, the Midway at the Indiana State Fair, every year for a decade, Phil. Carnie Town. The Bearded Lady, Flipper Boy, the ring toss… The Gypsies ran the games and them hard-lookin’ Harlan County boys in the wife beaters ran the rides. So, you must have just had a burning desire to be in a band… Actually, no. I never was good about being in anything. Sometimes, when you have a real innovative personality… It takes you years to discover this, because by the time you’re seven you’ve heard the word ‘no’ a lot… I just have this highly developed intuitive gift. I can turn around and know when someone is really in key. I can sense the depth of a person, and when something is really good, I go ballistic, because you don’t see that very often. It fires your soul up. There’s a saying… “Nobody really knows when we fall in love, but we all know when it’s over.” Music is like that, too. When you love something, nobody can take that away from you. Maybe on some level I wanted to be in a band, but I really wanted to be a band. I went back to New Mexico after driving that truck for S.I.R. in L.A. and I read an article in Rolling Stone about Bob Mosely of Moby Grape, which was my favorite band of all time. That fuckin’ guitar player Jerry Miller… I never heard anyone play like that. He was doing stuff years ahead of anybody, and he was the only American guitar player that knew what he was doing at that time. Here’s what happened… I wrote Bob Mosely a letter, and he wrote me back in about six weeks and I hitchhiked back to California. He says, “I’ll meet you on Avenue Pico in San Clemente tomorrow morning at 10 a.m.” So I’m there with a guitar case and a shit eatin’ grin and this guy shows up in a truck and drives me over to The Record Plant. Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young are there recording. Remember that band, Rudy and the Hard Times? There’s a harmonica player and background singer in the band named Lee Keifer who was Tommy Bolin’s producer, and he was the one who basically told me that I had a dream that was worthwhile, and they wound up recording me there. He said, “You gotta do a record with us,” because at that time I was a huge fan of Peter Green. I couldn’t believe how good he was. He was different. There were maybe a handful of guitar players for me at that time in no particular order… -continued- TONEQUEST REPORT V5. N7. May 2004 3 cover story Jeff Beck, Peter Greene, Jimmy Page, Hendrix, Townshend, Clapton, Chet Atkins… Billy Gibbons hadn’t come on the scene yet, although that was about to happen. And I loved Lowell George and Ry Cooder. It’s almost like yesterday… you get caught up in your memory — why you are doing what you’re doing. Your influences… So I signed a recording contract, and it was so funny, because I was only 20 years old and my dad wouldn’t cosign it. He thought he was going to be responPhil Brown & Little Feat sible for the recording budget or something, which was paid (laughing). I still kid him about that today. I was signed for a production deal with Lee Kiefer and I made a record with him at Westlake Audio in L.A. and it took over a year to do. Meanwhile, I was hanging out with Little Feat, Dallas Taylor, Buzz Feiten, Les Dudek, Cher, Rickie Lee Jones and the actress, Sonny Johnson. Getting another kind of education. TQR: Let’s jump to your rig. Over the years, have you acquired a taste for specific combinations of guitars, amps and effects? I’m basically effect-free. I like to plug straight into the amp, although there was a time when I had a huge rack of effects. TQR: Probably in the ‘80s… In the ‘80s I was signed as a writer for A&M and Warner Brothers music, and I wrote a lot of songs for a lot of people. And yes, at that time it was de rigeur that you have processing equipment. I’ll tell you a true story… I played a session with Cher, and Michael Landau and Steve Lukather were there. A lot of guys were there, and Mick Koszowski was the engineer, who did the Thriller record with Quincy Jones, and he says, “Phil, did you bring anything?” I had an old Marshall bottom from the ‘60s painted turquoise with the tolex stripped off of it and an old Marshall head, and I did my session in twenty minutes and that was that. I remember one of the songwriters there, John Lynd, said, “Well, another day with you, Phil. Just look at everybody else’s stuff.” The other players there had their guitar techs with them and all of this gear, you know? Steve Lukather looked at my rig and he said, “You just piss me off” (laughing). Steve’s a great player and a wonderful human being, but I never played with a lot of stuff — just give me a cable andVince letCunetto me plug in. There are some amps that I really love. One of the first amps I ever bought was a 100W HIWATT. I used that with a 200W Marshall bass top that I had modified because it had all that low end that you can’t get out of a regular amp. The HIWATT had two channels and I’d plug into both with a ‘Y’ cord. The thing I loved about HIWATT amps is when Pete Townshend hit a rhythm chord, you knew it was a chord. It was a particular sound– almost like a viola meets a violin sound. That Vox/Marshall hybrid sound. It had a particular voice. Not because it was loud… because it had a tone. I don’t actually have one guitar that I use more than another. I had one made for me by Sam Sanchez, who used to work at a store in downtown L.A. called Nadine’s Music. Sam was an incredible luthier and he had found a few Stratocaster bodies from the ‘50s and he put a guitar together for me with one of them. We found a Schecter neck, and the Seymour Duncan JB (Jeff Beck) pickups had just come out and we used those. At the time, the Kahler tremolos were the rage, but I never liked those locking nuts. The sound is warmer when the strings aren’t hitting metal, and the Kahler is locked behind the nut. I’ve also got a gold 1957 Stratocaster, and I don’t know what year this Sea Foam green Jeff Beck signature Strat is, but it has a big rosewood neck and it sounds just fucking amazing. It’s been a real dependable guitar and it’s been around the world with me. I do find that the Fender tremolo arms break off in the block a lot, though. There is a guitar player from Europe named Üle Roth who is really into Jimi, and I saw him playing with this trem arm that looked like the shift lever on a car. That gave me the idea to have a trem arm made for me by an aircraft shop, and those have never broken. I have a couple of Les Pauls — one is a 1970-75 that I use a lot and it’s tuned down to ‘B.’ I have a couple of 7-strings, and I play a baritone… one of those Danelectro copies they made. Seems to me that the cheaper a baritone is, the better they sound. -continued- 4 TONEQUEST REPORT V5. N7. May 2004 cover story TQR: How about amps? I have some custom-made stuff. I’m still real close to this guy named Lee Jackson, who really defined the sound of metal — everyone from George Dokken to Zack Wylde. I met him through an ad and I brought in a Marshall that I had and he modded it. I didn’t need more ‘oomph’ — I just realized that it was dying because this new sound was coming out of it. I didn’t need something over the top — I just wanted to find a guy that had done a little research with tone, and not just about volume. I think he also developed the master volume circuit in Fender amps. I also have an Ampeg that he modded for me when he worked for them. If you ever get a chance to buy an Ampeg VL1002, buy it. It’s the most dependable amplifier, and I’ve made more records with that amp, at any volume. It just has this beautiful saturation… They are very rare and hard to find, but Oh, my god… I really don’t play that loud. You don’t have to play loud to get a big sound, and I don’t use a lot of high end. I like that deep viola, cello sound. TQR: And the custom amps that Lee Jackson built for you… how powerful are they? One is a 50W, but I think it’s really 80W. It has three kinds of overdrive, a pedal for channel switching and an effects loop. The other amp is probably 120W, and it’s for playing really big places. I’ve also got some vintage Marshall bottoms, and I love the old Marshall 8x10 cabinets. I bought one of Robin Trower’s old 8x10 cabinets at Guitar Center in L.A. a few years ago and it’s huge. Must weigh almost 200 pounds. Then I found a three-quarter size Marshall 8x10 in Flagstaff, Arizona that’s lighter, and I found a 1959 Marshall bottom in St. Louis a couple of years ago. Nothing is inanimate. Everything has a soul. By the way, I’m on the new Cool & the Gang recording — I’ve known George Brown for 15 years and they had me come over and play on it. He said, “Bring that old Strat of yours, and are you going to bring that old Airline amp?” I have this little Airline with an 8" speaker. Put a mic in front of that and it’s over (laughing). I also just bought a little 15W Fender Frontman. I’ve made so many records with little amps, but occasionally I’ll bring a big cabinet. I might bring a 50W top… I have a VS880 Roland with the pre-sets that I’ve used before. I’m not pushing any air, but I can simulate it. I’ve also tried some of the Line 6 amps. All the equipment is good, it just depends on your needs. My favorite, though? I’ll just say, “Thank you Mr. Jim Marshall (laughing). You gave me a reason to live a little deeper.” That new Marshall Mode 4 is an amazing amplifier — really extraordinary. TQR: But your main Marshall is what — a 50 watt head? It’s a 100 watt, built the first year they switched from the 4input models to the master volume heads. I’ve had at least 20-30 Marshall heads over the years. But the main amplifier is the Ampeg. Sometimes, with old equipment you inherit the problems that come with it. You have to fix it, and as an artist, I can’t deal with that when I’m out playing. On the other hand, the tonality of the vintage amps is time-tested. You can hear it, and the new amps don’t have that. TQR: Many of the ‘modern’ amps just don’t seem to have much soul, which is OK if you can live without it… (Laughing) I’m not willing to do that. TQR: You’ve played a lot of sessions and written for a lot of different artists… A lot of girls have cut my songs, but I’ve worked with a lot of players, too — Kenny Loggins, Carmine Appice, Little Feat… lots of records and lots of television shows… Showtime movies, ESPN1, Silver Spoons, Three’s Company. Some of the songs… Bonnie Tyler had a huge record with “Matter of the Heart.” Cher… Pat Benatar… Dora Pesch, -continued- TONEQUEST REPORT V5. N7. May 2004 5 cover story who I guess was or is a big star in Europe. The biggest selling solo record of the Kiss band’s was “Trouble Walkin’” which I wrote with Bill Wray. There was band called Kix — an AC/DC clone band that had a big hit with a song I wrote called “Get It While It’s Hot” on their Blow My Fuse album. Tony Newton is a great jazz bass player and an understudy of James Jamerson’s who took me under his wing and showed me how to a do a lot of stuff. I’m not really a jazz player… I can play it, but it’s not what I do. TQR: TQR: But the influences and the voicings are there. Yeah, but there’s a way to play it with a little bit of R&B, a little bit of Rock… some where in the middle and then just tell a great story. There are songs that do that… I worked for Warners for three years, my contract was not renewed, and a few weeks later I was under contract with A&M. That’s literally unheard of. Usually photo courtesy of Patricia de Gorostarzu they will let a few years go by — Todd (Sharp) will tell you that (laughs). What had happened to me was that I became really hip to rhythm. I love Keith Richards because he plays such great rhythm guitars. Billy Gibbons is another one who just plays great fuckin’ rhythm guitar. You know who else is in that group? Brad Whitford of Aerosmith. He’s so melodic. Another cat that I thought was great was Phil Keaggy from Glass Harp, and we can’t forget Jimi, George Harrison and John Lennon. TQR: that I play with now that are spread all over the world. You dig deep enough and they’ll find you — you don’t have to find them. I always wanted to do something like the Truth record — great bass, great drums, and a very unique vocal and melody. Remember — no one walks away singing a guitar solo — they sing the melody, and the guitar should enhance that. So you’ve paid your dues doing studio work, writing and production. Yeah, because I have done so many records with so many people that I could observe things. “I wonder why he did that? Why is he offsetting the guitar mic like that?” Get rid of all the crap and just plug it in! I never heard Jeff Beck do a shitty record. I’m sure he has, but everything I have ever heard has this integrity about being fun. I never bought an Eric Clapton record until Pilgrim. It was the most real I had ever heard him play. I mean, “Lay Down Sally” was good — it just wasn’t very strong. Music is supposed to do something inside of you. It is a natural habitat for people and a universal communicator, because I have been all over the world and when you’re good, you’re good. There is no denying that. I have always wanted music to be an event. I’ve got some guys Let’s talk about Cruel Inventions, because Jeff is in there, Jimi is in the house, Curtis Mayfield, Billy, along with Bowie, Jack Bruce and a little Joe Walsh… After your CD arrived, I listened to it driving home and wound up sitting in the driveway, mesmerized until it was over. Oh, man, you got that Curtis Mayfield thing! That is so cool! There is this thing called contrapuntal movement… It’s a classical term that describes all the other music that surrounds the main musical theme of the piece. It’s a way of telling the story about the soul. Do you remember when you heard the first Blue Cheer record? They weren’t the best musicians, but they didn’t have to be. They were the first punk rock band… and they were memorable. Same thing with The 13th Floor Elevators… TQR: One of Billy Gibbon’s favorites. Back to your record… Believe it or not, when this CD came out I was working a construction job. I couldn’t find any work — maybe a couple of sessions a month would come in. I can work in Europe, but I couldn’t work here. There was a period of time here when if you weren’t Brittany Spears or Justin Timberlake, you were having a problem. One day a friend of mine who is a recreational heroin user came up to me at Starbucks and said, “Hey, Phil, I know this guy you need to contact.” “OK… what do you want me to do?” He asked me to give him a couple of songs. Now, I basically have three bands. Some of the songs on Cruel Inventions came from a band I call Phil Brown’s Adventure. That was sort of my ‘Hahavishnumeets-Jeff Beck with David -continued- 6 TONEQUEST REPORT V5. N7. May 2004 cover story Bowie-esque type songwriting. It was just something that I do. And then I have this blues thing called Apaches from Paris, which I’ll get to in a minute, and I took a year off and put this Hendrix trio together… I have 11 hip hop house mixes of Jimi songs, because I always wanted to fall in love the way Jimi explained it on “You Got Me Floatin.’” These incredible visions of, “You got me floatin’ across and through. You make me float right up next to you. There’s only one thing I need to get me there — is to hear you laugh without a care.” Now, please let me meet somebody like that! You see, I’m just a big kid. Music makes you immortal. It just immortalizes your soul, especially if you’re a player. When you can communicate that, you’re doing something. So I sent these songs to Philippe Langlois in Paris. He is a journalist and the man who brought Rolling Stone to France nearly 30 years ago, and he has a record company called Dixie Frog. A girlfriend I had at the time, Brigitte Handler, mentioned to me that her cousin was very involved in the entertainment scene in Europe and managed some of the biggest pop stars over there, including Johnny Hallyday, who is probably the biggest star ever. He brought everybody to Europe in the ‘60s… The Beatles, Hendrix… if you were anybody, you went over there and played with Johnny Hallyday. He once sold out a 70,000 capacity soccer stadium ten days in a row. Astounding... Anyway, I sent these songs to Philippe. Brigitte calls me and says, “Phil, I’m pregnant.” I’m thinking, “Holy Christ, now what am I gonna do? I’m working a construction job making $80 a day — how am I going to support a child?” And she says, “No, I’m pregnant with news! I want you to know that Philippe Langlois called me and he wants to sign you to a record deal.” I couldn’t believe it, because the only thing they ever wanted to do here in the States, David, was take my songs. I just couldn’t get a connection with anyone here, but in Europe, they absolutely venerate artists. I’m not saying that I’m better than anyone, but when you have a huge intuitive skill — and it is a skill — a tool — you just know things. Most of the guys that were in the music business (the record business) when I was there, they couldn’t hear a car crash. And they aren’t in the business any more. So Philippe basically culled these songs for the record, and he has a vice president of the company named Guy Lafay, whose grandfather was in the French Underground, and guess what they were called? Apaches of Paris. Now, I got the title “Apaches from Paris” from some graffiti I saw when I was with Little Feat… So I flew over to France to meet Philippe and his staff. I went back over there in March of 2003 to promote the record, and while I was there I met Nono Krief, who is photo courtesy of Patricia de Gorostarzu one of the most famous guitar players in Europe, and playing with him was another very famous drummer in Europe, Farid Medjane (picture Keith Moon with Tony Williams and the biggest hip hop collection you can imagine). Brigitte and I go into this club and Farid is playing with his girlfriend, Isabella, who looks like Jane Fonda and sings like Tina Turner, and she plays bass with her left hand and keyboard with her right. They were playing a lot of songs that I had demoed, because I had worked with the writers — that’s what I did for a living. So from about 10 at night to 4 in the morning I’m playing these songs with Farid doing this incredible drum shit. Nono was there, too, and before I knew it the entire crowd was yelling, “Phil, Phil, Phil!” It was unbelievable (laughing). You know when you’re going to grab a chord and all of a sudden something happens to you? You become immersed in this story of your artistry and you are no longer a musician. It becomes magic… TQR: And at that point you’re channeling… That is something that can be achieved. I think you are born with this and you spend the rest of your life trying to get it to come out of you. It’s always drawing at you, pulling you forward. Most of the artists that I know have given up on their dreams by the time they are in their twenties. It’s the dream I have, and the dream I saw that you have when I found your ToneQuest web site… I thought, “Holy shit. This guy cares.” So, that record got put together from all these different performances, and it just seems like it was meant to be. And at the time, I was literally homeless. I’ve had probably 13 top ten records and 20 gold and platinum records from around the world as a writer, and I have never been paid one dime. TQR: How does that happen? I wasn’t a very good businessman, to begin with, and I had a lot of managers that just robbed me blind. I trusted people. Even some of the publishing companies… I guess they just -continued- TONEQUEST REPORT V5. N7. May 2004 7 cover story thought I’d go away and die. I should also add that I’ve been clean and sober now for 19 years. I had a huge drug problem for a lot of years, and when I was 35 I realized that I was either going to get fixed or die. TQR: Did you not have your own publishing? I did. I had what was called a ‘three quarter deal,’ which means that I got half the publishing money. But you have to understand something… when you sign a recording or publishing contract, you’re basically renting your own room in the Warner Brothers or Sony building, or whatever. They’ll put money into you, but you are certainly not getting what you justly deserve. Most people who sign recording contracts get 13 points, which is like $1.30 for every copy sold, but after they deduct the packaging charge and returns… Cruel Inventions is in 13 countries and it has sold pretty well, but we got an e-mail from a DJ in Buenos Aires who said they couldn’t play enough of this record, but there is no product down there. It’s tough. You really need to have a bunch of guys that are ready to go to war for you, because it is a very tough business and it’s hard to collect your money. I mean, I’m looking at a record right now that went platinum in Europe — a song I co-wrote called “Get It While It’s Hot” — and get this — there is a third writer credited for this song who I have never even heard of. And this is a major publishing and recording company… TQR: Someone quoted Billy Gibbons as saying, “If it ain’t on paper, it’s vapor...” Who got Muddy’s money? Let’s talk about what you used on the Cruel Inventions tracks… Allan Holdsworth is a great guitar player and he did this record with Tony William’s Lifetime with Tony Newton. Allan has a really unique sound — a really unique tone. And the Jeff Beck thing… it’s all about having fun, and I basically learned everything playing old records slowed down to 16RPM. That’s how many of us learned. That’s what I miss so much about records today that I wanted to capture again on Cruel Inventions. The guy that mastered it is an Irishman, and he had done a lot of rap stuff — L.L. Cool J and Easy E — and I went to him with this record and I asked, “Can you put the low end in this?” It needs to be not like a Rap record, but I have never known a girl to walk away from low end (laughs). A lot of girls come to the shows. They aren’t music heads, but they want to be entertained. I wanted the guitar to be voiced like a vocal. I wanted to tell a story with the songs, and when it was over, feel like, “Oh, my God, does that sound right!” TQR: And it’s easy to do that, because I’m also an engineer, and I’m pretty good at it. There are guys that are a lot better than me, but I know how to do something engineering-wise that fits the song, because I’m a songwriter. So much music today sounds the same… same reverb, same engineers, same remix guys. And many of them are not songwriters, while I was trained by some of the best songwriters in the world, like Larry Weiss, John Lind, Steve Perry, Richard Feldman and Van Stephenson. TQR: Typically, the mix of the amplifiers I talked about and a mix of guitars… “La-Lah Land” was cut with an old Dobro and a Strat through my old ‘59 Marshall bottom and the Ampeg top. I usually try to mix things up. I have an old 1965 ‘pistol’ Shure 58 mic that I use for guitar on every recording I make, and I use a C1000 AKG vocal mic. I don’t use a screen — just a cheap little DBX machine. I recorded everything on a digital recorder — a VS880, and then download it to Pro Tools or Digital Performer. I use .010-.046 DR strings, and I don’t play with a guitar pick. I used to, but I’ve got a big fat callus on my thumb now and I use my other fingers, too. There was a great record that really influenced me a lot… You wanted the huge, high-bass B-tuned rhythm guitar and those crunchy-cool chord voicings to be preserved and remain up front in the mix. The feel and the mood of the recordings on Cruel Inventions is as remarkable as the playing and songwriting. Who were the other players? Rich Neville played bass on some of the songs. I’ve known Rich for 30 years and he was with Poco for a long time. He’s a wonderful player, period, and a great singer. Joel Bennett is a session player here from L.A. He’s playing bass on “If 6 Were 9” and “Rollin’ and Tumblin.’” The sax player, Tim Anderson is an amazing guy. He’s a horn player and a born again Christian who works in a bank. I heard him play one night at a club and he’s just got an amazing sound. Paul Cotton is a very good friend of mine who was in a band years -continued- 8 TONEQUEST REPORT V5. N7. May 2004 cover story ago called Illinois Speed Press. Paul is one of the best guitarists I have ever heard and he said, “You’ve made the record I wanted to make 25 years ago. Guys like you should be dead, because when I go to the record store, I go to the dead guy section.” Paul doesn’t play with a pick, either. TQR: You created a very intense mood on Cruel Inventions. For the benefit of our readers, I like to think of it as a whimsical performance with Jeff Beck, David Bowie, Jack Bruce, Jimi and Curtis Mayfield, with Thomas Dolby (Astronauts & Heretics era) mischeviously working his magic in the wings. On some tracks you show restraint and a keen understanding of what to play for the song, and on other tracks you take huge leaps, playing utterly original guitar parts that form a rich, heavy tapestry in stereo. The song on this last record that has really messed with people is the last one called, “Heaven.” It’s got that guitar riff and a rhythm… All of the great players we’ve been talking about — Jimi, Jeff — all of them had this photo courtesy of Patricia de Gorostarzu incredible vernacular of rhythm guitar, and the rhythm today all over the world is now rooted in hip hop. There is a label here that signs older artists, and they sound older… I’m stunned that you heard the Curtis Mayfield influence in those songs, because he was so ahead of his time. Often times when you’re writing something, you’ll go to a different key for the solo. Billy Gibbons does this a lot. But at blues jams, usually you’ll stay in the same key, not because it’s safe, but because it’s comfortable. I want to challenge that. Give me a mood, brother! We’re gonna take it home now, and I’m gonna break your heart a little bit. TQ guitar had a Kahler tremolo installed. I kept the nut locking piece and then replaced the Kahler with a Floyd Rose, so the body has additional wood removed to accommodate the Floyd. I’ve heard other Les Paul’s and mine definitely sounds different… the body density is changed. Also, how one holds the guitar against the body contributes to the sound. After years of playing, I’ve learned that my right hip contributes greatly to the sound. I have always been aware that sitting down and playing created a different mood and sound. It’s all about the movement of mood. Volume is on about 7 to 8… the tone is wide open on the neck pickup and set back a bit on the treble pickup. Lead guitar: Same Les Paul… The volume on the treble pickup is never on 10 — ever! I never play ‘live’ or record with the guitar volume wide open. Speaker cabinet is an 8x10 Marshall from Robin Trower with original Celestion speakers. Amp: Marshall 100W (made in England) with a silly mod that Lee Jackson tore out and stocked back to ‘normal.’ It was also the first year they made Marshalls with a master volume. It has that great viola tone — musty, busty and fucking beautiful tone! I run light, 1 to 2 o’clock treble, bass is jacked up, middle is about 3 o’clock. Master volume has grease, but not all the way to the top — just enough to get the grease… It records more ‘alive’ that way. On this track I used a Roland VS-880 manufactured in their first year of production — ’95 0r ‘96, I think. Here’s how I ran the Roland: Go to Mic Simulator. Go to MS Link MicConv Input=small Dynamic mic Out=small Dynamic mic APACHES FROM PARIS — THE TONES CHARMED LIFE Guitar: First rhythm guitar B tuned with a 7-string set (just lose the high E string). 1970-75 black Les Paul Standard with JBDuncan’s from the first run of his famously-cool Jeff Beckstyle front and rear pickups. The Phase=normal Bass cut=off Distance=on (339 cm offset) (Important! This ‘switch’ controls the whole deal as far as I’m concerned. Please pay -continued- TONEQUEST REPORT V5. N7. May 2004 9 cover story attention. This gives me my sound, recording wise. It is a digital device, and used carelessly, it can be brittle or harsh . My amp has always been set on mo’ bass and less high end. One can vary these ‘pre-sets’ according to your taste…the sky’s the limit!) Proximity Fx=3 Time=339cm (how far the mic is from the ‘speaker’ and the ‘angle’) Limiter=ON Freq=Thru Level=0db Thresh=112db Attack=50 Release=50 The DBX163x — (single mono unit) set to -10. Microphones: 1965 Sure SM58-pistol type C-1000 AKG B3 Hammond Organ circa 1967 with 150 Watt Leslie with JBL and modified drivers Bass is a 5 string Ibanez with custom 1985 Bartollini pickups Amp was the mod for P Bass 1 and Mic’ed Bass in Roland through the DBX163x Drums courtesy of a loop from me playing a kick and snare and reinforced with an Alesis SR16 — can you believe it? GRIND ME Guitar is a 1950’s alder body from the Fender storehouse, 24fret Shecter maple neck. Floyd Rose tremolo with Kahler locking nut. Built by Sam Sanchez at Nadine’s Music for me in 1981 after the Little Feat tour. It has first-run JB pickups. .010 to .046 gauge DR strings. Amps: Ampeg V1002, Lee Jackson customized. He built and designed the darn thing! That amp sounds f’ing amazing through any speaker combination — trust me… Guitar Effect: The ‘wiggly sound’ is from a Boss chorus unit that I’ve had since 1978 that I bought at Manny’s in New York while doing a record date for Robert Flieschman’s solo album. Echo unit courtesy of a Korg 3000. HOUR TO KILL Lead Guitars: 1954 Strat maple Fender neck I put on an early 60’s ash body with one ‘54 treble pickup and two ‘64 pickups. The original body was cracked and carved out for a Kahler, and then I got ‘smart’ and did the Floyd thing and kept the Kahler nut. They are almost impossible to find once the strings groove them out. DR strings, of course. By the way, I never cut the strings off at the tuning posts. It may look sloppy, but I love the overtones… Go ahead — try it! Amps: My Ampeg V1002 at very low volume, mic’ed with AKG C-1000 thru an old, for-real English 4x12 cab that Jimi used. I bought it from some old geezer here in LA in 1977 for $250. I replaced the speakers (they were blown out and fading fast tone-wise. They don’t make the same paper or glue any more when they recone ‘em!) in 1980 with vintage 60 watt Celestions. It weighs a ton and I stripped the tolex off… I think it adds a dimension to the sound when the wood vibrates freely. ROLLIN’ & TUMBLIN’ Cut ‘live’ in a living room in Simi Valley, California and the owners didn’t know what they were getting into! Used my VS880 with no mic-simulators and a Fostex 488 8 track as a mixer and we had a loop courtesy of Acid Software — thanks JJ! Guitar: Same guitar as described in “Grind Me” Speaker: Marshall 1959 cabinet with 4x12’s that I found in St. Louis three or four years ago with original 25 watt Greenback Celestion speakers, mic’ed with 1965 Shure SM58. FX: A green Line 6 set to some fabulous delay time. Vocal Mic: AKG C-1000 Bass: 1965 Fender P Bass (thank you Joel Bennett) thru SWR direct to hard disc. Percussion I added later. Sax is courtesy Tim Anderson from the kitchen — it ‘leaked’ but so what? It worked. Drums are ‘live’ (4 drums and 2 cymbals and a hat including snare) courtesy Erik Eldinius. Two room mics and a kick and snare/hi-hat combo If 6 WAS 9 Bass: Ibanez 5-string Lead Guitar: 1957 Gold Fender Strat with no mods, replaced tremolo with heavy duty bar and the strings are cut off for some reason. Through the VS880, DBX163x and no mic simulator, OK? Recorded thru the same set up described earlier, courtesy Roland. Keyboards are by Korg Rhythm Guitar: The Seafoam green first-year Fender Jeff Beck model with original Lace Sensor pickups. I replaced the tailpiece with a heavy duty bar that they made for me at an -continued- 10 TONEQUEST REPORT V5. N7. May 2004 cover story airplane manufacturing plant. BIG rosewood neck. Tailpiece is offset from the body about an inch and a half so I can bend notes up. Recorded with the Line 6 timed digital echo and the mic simulator really exaggerated for a chorusy sound without the chorus effect. Several delays are operating at once, over-lapping, creating this sensation. Reverse sound is courtesy of Line 6 and I played with it a bit. Tremolo is from Boss TR2 pedal, AC powered. Amp: Lee Jackson customized black face 50 watt (really and 85 watt deal manufactured by Harmony when he designed for them some years back). It uses four 6L6 tubes instead of EL34’s. Speaker: ‘60s 1959 Marshall bottom 4x12. Mic’d by AKG C1000 thru Roland VS880, DBX163x and no mic simulators on the Roland. GOODBYE PORKPIE HAT Guitar: Same used in “Grind Me” and “Rolling and Tumbling” — The Yellow #17 Amp: Ampeg V-1002 Speaker: 8x10 Marshall cab Recorded through the Roland VS880 with ‘mic simulation’ and DBX163x, Korg 3000 stereo delay, mic’d up with AKG C1000. Bass: P Bass1 and P Bass2 FX on the Roland VS880 Keyboards: Hammond C-3 patch thru Marshall 100 as mentioned above with Leslie speaker simulator. Korg multi timbral piano… something ‘2000’ and assorted string patches and drum loop samples LA-LAH LAND Guitars: JB Sea Foam green Strat, National dobro, Roland guitar synth Amp: Ampeg VL1002 Speaker: 8x10 Marshall FX: Dunlop volume pedal, Korg 3000 stereo delays and echo/reverbs Bass: Rich Neville’s 1965 Precision Bass Drums: Programming on an Alesis SR16, drum loops, ‘live’ percussion Recorded on Fostex 488 8-track cassette player! 8 tracks mixed down onto a Sony DAT player and then dumped back onto the 488 for overdubs. (Yes, you can…) DIVA Guitar: The Yellow #17 for lead work, 2000 Fender Telecaster for rhythm guitar Amps: Ampeg VL1002, 100 watt Marshall as described. Speaker: 8x10 Marshall FX: Korg 3000, Boss chorus, Ratt fuzztone, Lexicon reverb processor Bass: Korg B-3 patch Additional Instruments: Korean traditional Korg samples & instrument patches, Roland guitar Synth AHH, BABY IT’S YOU Guitar: JB Fender Strat Amp: Ampeg VL1002 Speaker: 8x10 Marshall Recorded thru Roland VS880, mic simulator, Korg 3000, DBX163x, Mic’ed with AKG C1000 Bass: Rich Neville’s hand-built 5-string Telecaster swamp ash bass with Seymour Duncan Musicman ‘tweaked’ pickups plugged direct into Roland VS880. CRUEL INVENTIONS Guitars: Fender Custom Pine Broadcaster with 4-way toggle tone switch, JB seafoam green Strat Amps: Marshall G15R CD FX: Alesis Quadraverb Keyboards: Korg Triton workstation sampler. Drums and bass performed on the Triton ALL OVER NOW Guitar: B-tuned ‘70s Les Paul with Floyd Rose tremolo Amp: Ampeg VL1002 Speaker: 8x10 Marshall Recorded on to a Roland VS 880 with a ‘mic simulator’ as mentioned above in other songs… I record as it comes to me and tweak some sounds to fit the song style and mood. DBX163x, of course. Mic’d with the AKG C1000. Bass: Ibanez 5-string with Boss Octave 2 direct into VS 880 FX: P Bass1 and Mic Bass on Roland, DBX163x. Drums and Wurlitzer Piano courtesy of Korg work station. -continued- TONEQUEST REPORT V5. N7. May 2004 11 amps HEAVEN Guitar: JB Strat as mentioned above Amps: Solo guitar — Marshall G15R CD, Rhythm guitar through Marshall 100watt Speaker: Marshall 1959 4x12 cabinet Bass: Bass samples of B-3 on Roland Dr. Groove 202 Drums: Roland Dr. Groove 202 and “live” loop samples and cymbals and percussion FX: Line 6, Boss Tremolo TR2, Quadraverb, Roland reverb patches. OK, this is the real deal. I really do this… I place all of my speaker cabinets on the floor supported by 2x4’s to keep the speaker jack from being damaged. The speakers are now facing the ceiling. The stress on the magnet is now evenly spaced and placed throughout the structure of the speaker and the cabinet. The floor, with the elevated speaker cabinet two inches or so above it, creates amazing tri-tones of middle and low end. These tones cannot be dialed in electronically. It’s the nature of 10" speakers to have a ‘tonality’ that gives a track or live performance ambience — something we all admire in great performances. I do not play loudly, as volume cannot be recorded accurately when it takes up so much “space.” In the mixing process every sound has a frequency. Radio frequencies are the same as they have been for 100 years or so. After the diaphragm is collapsed from the intensity of too much volume overload, recordings become myopic and uneventful. No amount of reverb or mastering can repair a damaged tonality. In my opinion, 10" speakers properly mic’d at a reasonable volume level are the key to a great guitar sound. Also, never turning a guitar up to full volume on the volume pot will give the ‘Q’ of the guitar more range and depth, making tonal qualities appear seductive. Live, I just plug in. I have a wah-wah, an ancient Ratt fuzz, Line 6 green box and a Boss tuner and my wiggly box — an old decrepit stereo Boss chorus that I use in mono, plugged into the amp loop in the back of my amps. Darn thing still works, too. I use two heads, sometimes three, for tone. The Ampeg VL1002 for one 8x10 Marshall cab, the Lee Jackson 50 watt Harmony head for the 3/4 8x10 cab, and the 100W Marshall for two 4x12 cabs — the ‘59 slant and the Jimi cab. Cables are fed into one switch box that I can turn off and on at will for more tone changes. There are also two amp channel switching pedals and all of this sits on an Indian carpet. I somehow find myself having such a blast that I forget that immortality is a heart-over-mind kinda thing. I’ll look for ‘ya on the road, ‘cause that’s where the real action is. Take care and remember if anybody tells you that it can’t be done — they’re lyin’! TQ –Phil Brown & Apaches From Paris Please visit www.tonequest.com to hear "It's All Over Now" from Phil Brown's Cruel Inventions. The original European edition of Cruel Inventions can be purchased only at Amazon.co.UK, and quantities are limited. However, a special edition CD sampler consisting of 8 tracks from the original European CD has been created exclusively for ToneQuest subscribers. To order, please click on 'ToneQuest Records' at tonequest.com and select the Phil Brown page. Each CD ordered will be signed by Phil and shipped from the Temple of Tone, Atlanta, Georgia USA. Lee Jackson began his career at BC Rich guitars in 1976, where he developed the double-neck ‘Bitch’ guitar and bass. Then Lee joined Paul Rivera, modifying amplifiers and building pedalboards, and both Paul and Lee eventually went to work for Fender, where Lee helped design the late ‘80s Fender Concert, Twin II, Deluxe Reverb II and London Reverb. In 1983, Lee formed the Metaltronix company, and his custom Marshall modifications led to the development of the Blues ‘59 amp at the request of Billy Gibbons. In 1991, Lee briefly joined Ampeg, where he designed the VL Series amps prior to creating Lee Jackson Amplifiers in 1993. The Lee Jackson HLA1000 Series represented an exact copy of the amplifiers that Lee had hand-built for Steve Vai, George Lynch and Zak Wylde, among others. Lee now resides in Austin, Texas, and he is developing a new line of Lee Jackson amplifiers, a new guitar-tuner-watch, and he has completed his long-awaited book titled, The Ultimate Bench Warrior (Cherry Lane). We asked Lee to tell us about Phil Brown’s favorite amps, and he delivered. -continued- 12 TONEQUEST REPORT V5. N7. May 2004 amps So you’ve been caught in Phil’s magic… TQR: Indeed, we have. I’ve worked with him on so many different projects… We once did a live remote recording of this Jimi Hendrix project he was doing, and it will blow your mind. All he is doing is playing through one of my amplifiers and a few simple pedals, and when you listen to this, it’s live. I didn’t do anything to it except master it and clean it up a little for the CD, and when you hear it you’re thinking, “This guy is doing this live?” Plus, he’s singing it! The thing you must know is that there was no re-tracking. I was there. It’s just Phil live, and it’s incredible. TQR: Tell us about Phil’s favorite amp, the Ampeg VL1002 you designed and built while you were working for Ampeg. Well, this all originally started when Phil called me during the time we had the Metaltronix company in L.A. and we were strictly doing custom modifications to Marshall amplifiers. He brought me a couple of amps — an old HIWATT and a Marshall head. We had a sound room at Metaltronix and we always insisted that our customers play the amps we had worked on before they left, to be sure they were happy with the sound. That’s the first time I heard Phil play, and I was completely blown away. He was ecstatic and I was ecstatic, because my thing is to really work with the artist to enhance what they’re doing. That’s the kick I get of of doing this, and that was the whole thing about Metaltronix in the ‘80s. We created signature sounds for a lot of different groups that you heard on the radio. So we customized Phil’s amps at first, and then he used our first production amps out of Metaltronix — the M1000. The thing was, the Metaltronix amps were single channel, and Phil really needed a two channel amp to go from really clean to rockin.’ Later, when I was designing at Ampeg, the VL1002 fit his sound perfectly because it was a clean and distorted amp. I sent one off to him and he said it was absolutely ‘it’ as far as what he was looking for. The thing I did with the VL1002 was fashion the clean channel around the sound of a blackface Twin. I thought, “What does everybody that I’ve been working with want?” For a clean sound, it’s hard to beat that warm, sparkly overall tone that is not to dark and not too thin. It’s just really got a lot of body. Phil wanted something that really sang, and on top of that, he plays Stratocasters, so you have to have a lot of gain, but not squealy gain — you need a lot of depth gain, where it can take the Strat pickups and let them come alive. And he was also playing an older black Les Paul with a Floyd, and it’s the best sounding Les Paul I have ever heard. He also plays a lot in the middle position with both pickups on. Now, usually that doesn’t sound so great — it’s kind of hollow sounding — and when I first saw him do that I thought to myself, “Oh, that’s not going to sound very good through this amp…” Well, he kicked it in and started playing and that changed my mind (laughing). So he started using the Ampeg VL amp, and he’s had other amps of mine, but that one really seems to have nailed the sound for him. TQR: Did you also design the distortion channel around something specific, similar to the clean channel? More than anything, the VL Series was fashioned around the earlier Metaltronix M1000. I was working on a high gain amplifier with the least amount of hiss possible, because with gain, you get hiss and unwanted noise. I don’t really try to copy anybody else when I design amps. Because I am a player, too, I start a design working first with a scope, and then I sit down at the bench with my guitar and just keep tweaking and playing it until I hear a certain type of singing sound. Luckily, what I hear in my ears is what most players like, too, and amp builders invariably design amps based on what they like to hear. But there have been players that have come in and I will set their amp a certain way that I think sounds really good, and they will immediately change all the settings to a sound that I think is really bad, yet they think it’s the best sound they have ever heard! So the bottom line is, as long as it does what the artist wants, I’m happy. That’s why there are guitars players with so many unique sounds. Otherwise, we’d all sound the same. TONEQUEST REPORT V5. N7. May 2004 13 amps TQR: Phil often refers to the sound of a violin and cello. What’s wild is that my GP1000 rack pre-amp is used by a first violinist in an orchestra. I absolutely understand that, because you want the guitar to sing. You don’t want a buzz on the note and you don’t want distortion. You want a singing sound, and when it clips you don’t want a hard clip, you want it to be a nice soft clip, but with gain, so that it actually holds the note and sustains. Many times after I work on a design, I’ll spend several weeks with just a guitar, a soldering iron and parts, and I keep tweaking it out, because I won’t be happy until it has a certain sound that I’m looking for. TQR: That’s what you were doing when you specialized strictly in modifications… Absolutely. Every amp has it’s own personality. Even in production amplifiers, you do your best to get the consistency as tight as possible, but you always have a situation where two of the exact same models will sound different, especially with two different guitar players. Neither is bad — just different. TQR: Do you have any idea how many of the Ampeg VL1002 amps were built? On the HIWATT we just added a little bit more gain to it so that it would break up a little more. On the Marshall, we did a lot. We added two channels so that he could switch back and forth, because he plays really clean sometimes and he needed that. I gave him two sets of pre-amps and two sets of master volumes so that he could pre-set and toggle back and forth. That amp is really magical sounding, but it also went to the right player… TQR: You know, it’s all in layout. A circuit board works just fine when you lay it out right. It’s only when you cram things in too tight that you get radiation from part to part and they talk to each other, and that’s a problem. That is also why the point-to-point stuff has always been so popular, because it’s spaced out so wide. So if you space all the components out wide on a circuit board, you can get very close to the same sound. It’s all about capacitance. Some people think that more capacitance is better, but that’s just not true. It’s the opposite. TQR: Yes. In less than a two year period we were building about 400 a month, so I would say about 6,000 worldwide. That’s not a lot when you consider the entire world. And the VL1001’s are really rare. They were a single channel version of the VL1002, and after two months of production Ampeg did some market research and concluded that no one was buying single channel amps, so production on the VL1001 was discontinued. There are probably no more than 400 of them in existence. TQR: What was the original tube compliment in the VL1002? Seven 12AX7’s and they came in two versions with either four 6550’s or EL34’s. Phil likes the 6550’s because they play cleaner. There was also a time when we were able to get some of the old Sylvania 6CA7’s, but they are impossible to find now. TQR: He initially brought you a vintage HIWATT 100W head and a master volume Marshall to modify. So much for the perception that printed circuit board amps are somehow inferior to hand-wired, point-to-point amplifiers. Phil also has two of your Lee Jackson XLS amps, and he said that the 50W head was more like 80W and the 100W was “only for really big places.” He bought the 50W from one of my old employees when we were in St. Louis doing an album. That is an XLS 50, and yes, it’s true — they do put out more like 75 watts. That amp represents everything I learned from the VL’s at the next level. In the VL amps, the effects loop has a solid state Send, because Ampeg was trying to cut some costs and I could only scream so much at the time. I didn’t like it, so when I designed the XLS Lee Jackson amplifier I took out anything that was remotely solid state and put in a complete tube effects Send in. I cringe when I see solid state. It’s a pretty simple equation… Not to get too out there, but on a solid state circuit, the most headroom you can do on any kind of chip is + or - 15 volts, so that means the maximum you can do on that chip is a 30 volt swing. On any day, a tube will do a 60 volt to 80 volt swing in a yawn. So you can tell the difference in impact. With anything solid state, you’re limiting the swing of your signal. That’s why I at least got Ampeg to allow me to put in a tube effects Return, so that I could get the signal back up again. I had to pad the signal down in the Send so that it wouldn’t distort the chip, and then on the way -continued- 14 TONEQUEST REPORT V5. N7. May 2004 amps back, I needed to kick it back up to get that 60 volt to 80 volt swing. Otherwise it would be dead and lifeless. Generally, what I do in my amps is run really high plate voltages, and what that does is give you a lot more snap and impact. TQR: And more dynamics… They are more dynamic, absolutely. And thank goodness they are building really good tubes now, because we went through a period when the tubes were just firecrackers. They were horrible, and they would pop on you within hours of putting them in an amplifier. TQR: Especially running them they way you do… (Laughs) Well, not just me. HIWATTS ran really hot, and some old Plexi Marshall amps, too. In the old days, people didn’t keep really tight tolerances, and the plate voltages on these old Marshalls could run anywhere from 375V to 525V. We modified thousands of old Marshalls and you just never knew when you got an amp in whether it was going to be dead or really exciting. If you have really low plate voltages, there isn’t much you can do but have this rather soggy-sounding amp. TQ www.leejackson.com Yes, we looked far and wide for an Ampeg VL 1002 or 1001 head, as well as Lee Jackson amps from the XLS days and one of the earlier Metaltronix-modded amps, but we were able to turn up nothing. Nothing! We suspect, however, that some of these amps will begin appearing for sale now, perhaps accompanied by a reference to this issue. Fortunately, we are flush with options… Meet the Demeter TGA-3 (one of the early ones), graciously provided from Delta Moon guitarist Mark Johnson’s personal stash. The TGA3 is the amplifier that was predominately featured on three consecutive Sonny Landreth recordings, ending with South of I10. That alone constitutes a ringing endorsement, and if you have only recently subscribed to TQR, we urge you to grab all the ‘Sonny’ you can find and visit sonnylandreth.com for tour schedules and album info. Sonny appears to have been selected by Eric Clapton to be included in the lineup for the Crossroads Festival in Dallas (see ericclapton.com), and it’s about damn time… Now cut a record with him, Eric. The Demeter TGA-3 is an early channelswitching amp with not two, but three channels, and color-coded control knobs to help you keep your mind right. Channel One (the yellow row on the bottom) is yer clean channel. Oh, we like that one a lot, especially with single coils. You can put some hair on the clean tones by experimenting with the gain and master volume settings, or just go for all-clean with the Gain set below 10 o’clock and the Volume beyond 12 o’clock as you wallow in gloriously fat, spanky goodness with plenty of headroom. Add outboard reverb through the effects loop to taste and serve. We’re still lickin’ our fingers, folks. James Demeter gets clean tone, especially when you run the TGA-3 with 6550’s (EL34’s optional with a bias switch on the back for each). At the top of the control panel are channels Two (green) and Three (red). We like to think of Channel Two as vintage Marshall Plexi-meets Vox — thick, rich and beefy, but not completely over the top. Perfect for British blues, chimey, almost-clean-tone with a little attitude for rhythm tones dripping with character, and your favorite Jimi riffs with the Gain up or the Boost switch on. We were able to coax some incredibly musical violin and cello tones in Channel Two that work equally well for lead and slide. ‘Phil Brown’ tone. Channel Three is classic, full-bore crunch loaded with sustain, harmonic feedback, distortion and drive. The trick to using this channel is in idling back and finding the perfect mix of volume and gain while dialing in your tone settings to taste for different guitars and pickups. Both Channels Two and Three share the top tone controls, a Dark/Normal switch and a Boost(Gain)/Edge switch. The Boost mode delivers classic ‘80s metal crunch and postmaster volume Marshall sustain and harmonic feedback, but subtle changes in the Gain/Volume mix and tone controls can produce some nice variations that are less than completely -continued- TONEQUEST REPORT V5. N7. May 2004 15 guitars gonzo. This ‘Boost’ is not an all-or-nothing circuit by any means, and we were able to closely duplicate some of Mr. Brown’s majestic tones in this mode — especially with our Les Paul. Very smooth, but you have to be willing to spend the time to dial it in. From one guitar to another, changes in the treble, midrange, bass and Gain/Volume settings can mean the difference between “I just found my tone of love,” and “this thing sucks.” Oh, and a word about the FX Send/Submaster… These controls act as two additional Master Volumes, or perceived Gain “stacks.” Again, some time is required to understand how the Gain, Volume and FX Send/Submaster interact and shape distortion, sustain, attack, and dynamic response. The Edge mode renders a cleaner, chimier overdriven tone rooted in late ‘60s, 4-input Marshall/HIWATT/Vox territory that seems to compliment both single coil pickups and humbuckers. There is a trade-off between using the cleaner 6550 output tubes versus EL34’s — some of the compression and more focused British tone typical of an EL34-powered amplifier is lost with the 6550’s, but EL34’s don’t do ‘clean’ nearly as nice as the 6550’s… The Dark mode is really good for thundering, subterranean bass lines. Speaking of bass, the Demeter just oozed thick, well-defined low-end through our 1968 Marshall 4x12. We can’t recall hearing any other amplifier that throws as much bass and low mids, especially with a Stratocaster. The TGA-3 features many thoughtful appointments such as a Bright switch for Channel One that is anything but brittle, a Presence Control, footswitch, of course, Stereo FX Loop Returns, an Output Balance pot, Slave Amp Output and Line Out. The Demeter is also one of the most dynamic and responsive amplifiers we have ever played… Varying pick (or finger) attack produces an extremely wide range of harmonic overtones and variations in decay and sustain that literally add a new dimension to your playing. We had an absolute blast playing the Demeter. It’s one versatile and utterly inspiring Sexy Beast. Early Demeter TGA-3 amps can be found for around $1,300, and James Demeter continues to build updated TGA-2 mod- els, as well as the vaunted TRM-1 Tremulator tremolo pedal, the Comp-1 Compulator studio-quality compression pedal, an innovative onboard Fat Control midboost for guitar, the SSC1 Silent Speaker Chamber used by Sonny Landreth and Billy F Gibbons, among others, and lots of additional cool tools for pro audio and bass. TQ www.demeteramps.com the HARDTAIL A year before we published our first issue of The ToneQuest Report in November 1999, a refinned and rare 1956 hardtail Stratocaster came to us through a late night search on GBase.com. We bought it at a fair price from a collector in New Jersey, and that guitar taught us a ton about the magic that can be found in a classic vintage guitar. When we took the plunge to launch The ToneQuest Report, working capital became a much more urgent priority than maintaining a collection of vintage guitars, and we eventually sold that won- derful guitar, but our fond memories of it remain undiminished. The original pickups had aged like fine wine, with a musical clarity and depth that we have seldom heard since. The entire guitar resonated and responded to every note and chord, and you could hear and feel the light swamp ash body embrace the notes with an unforgettably throaty, woody voice. The soft ‘V’ neck was a joy to play, and it required absolutely no thought or physical compensation for uneven action or the string run-off at the fingerboard edges that seems to plague so many pre-slab board Fender guitars. The truss rod worked perfectly, the neck was sound and straight, and even the original Stackpole pots and Kluson tuners functioned flawlessly. The hardtail had been refinished by a veteran craftsman of incomparable talent, and it remains one of the most artfully executed nitro finishes we have ever seen — so thin that it had begun to subtly weather check. The twotone burst and the depth and definition of the wood grain was like nothing we have ever seen since… a work of art, and nothing less. During the past four years we have recorded our impressions of exceptional instruments found, played, borrowed and bought for review. We have constantly searched for modern equivalents to the rare and exceptional instruments we have found the same way you would — by shopping at stores, guitar shows and online resources like GBase and eBay. As hundreds of guitars have passed through our hands, and through our discussions with so many knowledgeable players and -continued- 16 TONEQUEST REPORT V5. N7. May 2004 guitars repair and restoration experts, we have learned and observed a lot. For instance, we’ve learned through our experience with replacement pickups that certain ‘hot’ single coil pickups played through overdrive devices or high gain amplifiers often render an irritating tone that is decidedly not the sound you associate with ‘Texas.’ Clean, clear single coils often produce a superior overdriven tone in many amplifiers (but not all). Complicating matters even more, a very bright single coil pickup might compliment a British-style, midrangeheavy amp perfectly, but in certain Fender amps the same pickup will tear your head off. Marrying a particular pickup to complimentary amplifiers is really where the truth is found in the debate over guitar pickups (and often, amps!) We’ve also learned that bigger necks transmit more string vibration to the guitar body, enhancing resonance, sustain and the ‘woody’ character of the guitar. And if you just can’t physically handle a big neck, none of this matters, does it? We have learned that you can’t make sweeping judgments about the playability and feel of an instrument in the absence of an expert setup, and there is more going on than simply setting intonation, string height and adjusting the truss rod — a lot more. We have finally learned that the neck-to-body angle (or lack thereof) in bolt-on neck guitars is often a significant factor in understanding why one guitar will play hard and stiff, while the same model set up with identical strings and action plays effortlessly. A shim is often the magic bullet, but it’s also a little more complicated than the old school method of sliding a thin pick or a matchbook cover in the neck pocket. Shimming, and creating neck-tobody geometry in a bolt-on guitar is an art, and every guitar is different. picking up guitars and putting the heavier ones right back down and walking away. We do it. But we have also learned that a solid body guitar can be too light, and we’ve had a few heavier guitars that sounded remarkably, exceptionally good, in a heavy kind of way. Back to that hardtail… Now, there was a light one that was pure magic, and we prefer the lighter, magical ones when they can be found. We have learned first-hand that building a guitar from disparate parts can be disappointing for most players with a casual understanding of guitar construction, woodworking, and tools, particularly if said player is also a perfectionist with a low threshold for pain. Why? Most of the time, none of this stuff ever fits the way you think it will without some deft modifications. And doing your own refins or new finishes on raw wood? Don’t expect to produce a result that is remotely comparable to someone who has made all of the mistakes and perfected their craft for decades before the thought of finishing a guitar ever occurred to you. No, finishing is not brain surgery, but it is a skill, and it can also produce stunning works of art in the right hands. We’ve learned that the alloys used to forge your hardware make a difference you can hear, but that is not to say that a cheap guitar built with cheap-o parts that sounds crude and cheap can’t be a wonderful thing, too. It’s when we want our best instruments to sound their best that the alloys used to make saddles, bridges and tailpieces can all add up to superior tone, and the effect is cumulative. Pot metal don’t cut it. We’ve also spent a lot of time observing prospective buyers TONEQUEST REPORT V5. N7. May 2004 And finally, we’ve concluded that while exceptional instruments new and old share many features that can be consistently reproduced, in the real world, these instruments still remain exceptional, rare, and generally very difficult to find. Our answer to this frustrating game of chance is to create our own rigid speci-continued- 17 guitars fications, acquire components from exceptional suppliers who can meet or exceed them, and custom build guitars in limited numbers expressly for ToneQuest subscribers. Our first prototype was completed in March (pictured here). We asked USA Custom Guitars to build a onepiece, lightweight ash, hardtail body and a full ‘C’ maple neck with dark rosewood fingerboard, Dunlop 6150 fret wire and access to the truss rod at the peghead for easier seasonal adjustments. Finishing was done by Roxy guitar finishes in vintage see-through Blonde. The quarter-sawn neck was finished with tinted satin lacquer on the back and gloss lacquer on the peghead. You can’t beat satin for a nonsticky, smooth feel, and Roxy’s work was outstanding. All of our hardware was acquired from Bill Callaham of Callaham Guitars — Gotoh vintage-style tuners, stainless strap buttons and string retainer, bridge, saddles, all necessary screws, neck plate and input jack. We mounted the tortoise shell guard with a set of Jason Lollar’s ‘Special’ pickups wired with Acme GuitarWorks master tone/blend pots, and the guitar was expertly assembled and set up by Brian McDaniel in Atlanta. As Brian remarked when he delivered the assembled guitar, “It’s almost a shame to plug it in.” In other words, this hardtail has got some serious soul. Working with USA Custom, Bill Callaham and Jason Lollar, we accomplished precisely what we intended — to verify that we could indeed reproduce the magical sustain, resonance, tone and feel of the best guitars we have ever played and searched for so often without success. Of course, we also consulted with one of the senior members of our advisory board and a brilliant guitarist with deep experience in all matters related to tone, Sheryl Crow guitarist Peter Stroud. We turned the guitar over to Peter with a request to play the hell out of it, and his comments follow: “The ToneQuest prototype that David handed over to check out is a damn near perfect guitar, and he’s liable not to get it back! A Strat-style with all the high quality factors you would hope for — lightweight and a real ringer. You can feel it vibrate through the body into your bones. When it sounds that good acoustically, then it’ll be the bomb plugged in. And Jason’s pickups are some of the best I’ve ever heard. This 18 guitar is incredibly powerful sounding — full, even and clear. Pickup winding with an ear for tone has become an art craft, and Jason is a definite master. The neck is a perfect cross-cut piece of maple, with the grain perpendicular to the fretboard. This usually translates to strength and less opportunity for warping, as well as contributing to its tone and sustain. This one is a winner. With guitars like these coming out, my need for ‘vintage’ is fading fast.” Our first run of five limited edition guitars will be built in May and June and offered for private sale to our readers. Each individually numbered and dated guitar will sell for $2,600.00, which includes a classic brown tolex hardshell case, a set of Pyramid strings and a ToneQuest leather strap. Each owner will also receive a personal certificate of ownership and every guitar is backed by a limited lifetime guarantee to the original owner. A 50% non-refundable deposit will be required to reserve each instrument, with the balance due at the time each guitar is shipped.TQ Specifications: 1-piece lightweight swamp ash body Straight-grained, 21 fret maple neck with dark rosewood slab board Dunlop 6150 jumbo fret wire ‘Fatback’ neck profile with satin finish Truss rod access at peghead Bone nut 7.25"- 9.50" compound radius Hardware: Callaham Tuners: Vintage-style Gotoh Pickups: Lollar Blackface, Specials, or VanZandt True Vintage middle reverse-wound Wiring Harness: Custom by Acme Guitarworks with Blend pot Finish: Nitrocellulose lacquer, custom-mixed for ToneQuest guitars in Vintage Transparent Blonde. Pickguard: Tortoise shell or mint green Assembled weight: 6.5-7 pounds maximum Guitar Names (penciled in body cavity): Juliette, Mercy, Stella, Evangeline and Lily Pearl. To place an order for one of the first series of limited edition ToneQuest guitars, please contact David Wilson, publisher, at 1877-MAX-TONE, E-MAIL: TONEQUEST1@AOL.COM. Additional limited runs of five guitars will be announced soon. TONEQUEST REPORT V5. N7. May 2004 pickups Given Phil Brown’s huge and funky tone, we couldn’t pick a more suitable issue in which to unveil Jason Lollar’s ‘Special’ Stratocaster pickups, and they are special indeed. How many different recipes can there be for Stratocaster pickups? Like recipes for gumbo, Italian red sauce, fine wine and small batch bourbon, it seems as if the possibilities are limited only by the creative vision of their makers. don’t get these. This is Stratocaster Heaven we’re talkin’ ‘bout, as in deep, thick and heavy. And heavy can be good. Every tone has its season in the wind. And how does Warlock Lollar do it? According to himself, 43 gauge wire, 20% more turns on the bobbin, and he doesn’t charge up his AlNiCo 5 magnets too high — about 800 gauss, max. Output resistance for the Specials ranges from about 6.8K to 7.5K ohms. The Specials rock with an authority and presence that nearly betrays their heritage, and the closest thing we could find to match up with them in Peter Stroud’s music room was a vintage Junior sporting a single P90. These pickups are bold as love, no doubt, but with all the string definition and clarity of a Strat, just bigger by a mile. How to describe the Lollar Specials? If you happen to be a rocker who dearly loves the girth of a P90 or classic PAF, but you are hopelessly hooked on hugging a Stratocaster, you will love the Specials. If you admire the early tone found on the Jeff Beck Group recordings with Cozy Powell, Max Middleton and Bob Tench, you are a Special player. If Ron Wood’s completely overlooked solo record titled Slide On This speaks to you as it does to us, you need some Specials. At this point it would be cruel and unfair not to alert you to one of the best finds on the planet for tone freaks... Acme GuitarWorks. Yes! These people (George is the founder/ owner) specialize in creating prewired pickguards and wiring harnesses loaded with your pickup de jour. Acme uses all the good stuff, too... real Fender pickguards, vintage cloth covered wire, Orange drop caps, CTS pots, CRL toggle switches, vintage-style metal shielding plates, and a specially-designed blender pot for the The Lollar Specials are different from your diddy’s original Strat pickups in ways that can easily be described: The bottom, or low end is very prominent, but smoother and void of the smack-thud-thwack we hear in classic Strat pickups. It’s a bigger, yet kinder, gentler bottom without the hollow pop you hear on the low E string with typical Strat pickups... The mids are more prominent in the Specials, but not overbearing to the extent that they become dark, honky or smother the essential nuances found in the upper frequencies. You can hear and feel the push of the mids, but they aren’t mushing out or muddying the overall tone. The highs... Now, this is usually where we have a big problem with so-called ‘hot’ Stratocaster pickups, because most of the ones we’ve heard have this brittle, spikey overtone-thing happening in the upper frequencies that we find extremely irritating, as if each pickup has a little creep with a sizzle cymbal hidden inside the coil. Argggghhhhhh! That’s not ‘Texas’! That’s noise! But not the Specials... The highs are there, but they are smooth and silky. Airy. The highs in the Specials don’t dance on your head with lead feet — they kiss you. And this is good, because we all need to be kissed — today more than ever. No, you ain’t gonna get that ultra-glassy, mondo-hollow “The Wind Cries Mary” tone, quite, with the Specials. We’ve already told you how to get that, and if that’s what you want, second tone on Stratocasters that enables you to blend the neck and bridge pickups (the first tone control serves as a Master tone for all settings). Acme is a godsend for guitarists that want to change pickups without shopping for the required components and assembling and soldering their own wiring harnesses from scratch, and they are our exclusive supplier for the new ToneQuest guitars. TQ www.lollarguitars.com, 206-463-9838 www.acmeguitarworks.com, 302-836-5301 TONEQUEST REPORT V5. N7. May 2004 19 www.tonequest.com coming in Future Issues INTERVIEWS: Robert Keeley Jerry Jones Don Warren Guitars Bil Nash, Nash Guitars FEATURES: TV Jones More Tone From Jason Lollar Hemp Update with ABrown! AMPLIFIERS: Savage Macht 6! Chicago Blues Box PICKUPS: DiMarzio Bluesbuckers & Mini Humbuckers GUITARS: RI Firebird V Makeover the ToneQuest Report TM Editor/Publisher David Wilson Associate Publisher Liz Medley Graphic Design Rick Johnson ORDER YOUR TONEQUEST STRAP NOW! W e asked Nashville custom strap-makers Long Hollow Leather to design a premium, all-leather strap for you, and they delivered! The new ToneQuest guitar strap is constructed of the world’s finest vegetabletanned German leather, in your choice of brown or black. Each strap features the ToneQuest logo tastefully stamped in relief on the top, and the underside is lined with the same top-quality German leather. These buttery straps feel completely broken-in from the first gig, and they will last a lifetime. Limited quantities available. Price: $38.00 + $7.00 priority mail shipping in the USA. Order two or more straps and save $5.00 on each additional strap ordered. Please call 1-877-MAX-TONE toll-free or place your order at www.tonequest.com today. 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