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Saginaw Field & Stream
Club Newsletter
Volume 2014
Issue 11
November
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November is worth $600
if you are in your seat.
November Membership Meeting Program
Frank Spern Was not
in his seat and did
not collect $600.00
Membership Meeting
November 20, 2014, 7 PM
Dinner Served at 6 PM
Menu
1/2 Chicken, Mashed Potatoes/gravy/stuffing & pudding
Chris McGowan
COPPER COUNTRY STORIES
This program is being given by one of our own club members.
Charles Edwards is originally from the Upper Peninsula of Michigan
and even though he now lives down here with us, he has always had
a deep interest in the history of the Copper Country. Chuck has collected historical artifacts from the area and he has been able to collect
a series of DVDs that have been developed to tell this history in a way
that he enjoys. He has given many programs to other groups and for
this meeting he has selected two of these stories to present to us. It
is the middle of the hunt and a good time to settle down and share a
passion of one of our own.
Won the
Ruger GP100 357 Mag
A Rock Island 1911A1 45
acp Mil Spec pistol to be
raffled off in November
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The Archery Range
Well it’s November and where has the time gone. Hopefully you all had
success in the woods with your archery gear. Now is the time to dust off
your indoor bows and start shooting some spots. We had our SVAA meeting
on the 19th of October and have set dates for this winter. The first valley
shoot of the year is going to be held on the 22nd and 23rd of November this
year. The full schedule is posted in the CEC building. We will be hosting a
shoot as well again this year the 1st weekend of January. If you haven’t
heard, we plan on doing some remodeling of our CEC building and could
use some help. If you are interested in helping, please let me know. Right
now the plan is to do this the 1st and 2nd week of December.
1296 N Gleaner Rd
Saginaw, MI 48609 9495
Club Shooting Hours
Guest’s
Are as follows, 0800 AM until sunset, use you hunting guide to determine sunset. If there is an organized event under lights, that may go to
10 PM. The lights on ranges are for organized events only.
Anyone who is not immediate family is considered a guest and is required to pay the $5.00 guest fee. Tubes are located on each range.
Immediate family is defined as, spouse, and minor children.
Club Administrative News
Expenses, $17,695.47
Income,
Building Donations
Financial Report
$18,742.15
$113,099.00
Checking, $20,389.24
Savings,
James L. De Clerck, Treasurer
$41,208.24
To Date
Membership Report November, 2014
Joey Lee, Membership Secretary
1890
116
General
Members
Associate
Members
2006
Total
Membership
New General Members
Frank Porterfield
Robert Delaney
Blake Gordon
Brian Verzinski
Joshua Price
Andy Dietrich
Ferdy Meier
Richard Vieav
Colton Wiegand
Dennis Newville
Mike Hoffman
Brian Grandy
Chad Revell
Jason Rupp
Jason Achtabowski
Building Managers
Mike Meyer 989-274-4078
Greg King 989-694-4868
For rentals or questions
Please call
CCW Range
Paper Targets and Bowling
pins are the only targets allowed on the CCW range.
Targets are not to be hung
from the pin table covers!
Angela Lonsway
Paul Steinke
Larry Henderson
Jeff Keefer
Jason Seelhoff
Richard Schwartzly
Jacob Caverly
Justin Bird
Jason Seelhoff
Jonathon Beck
Mark Ivon
Danny Burroughs
Russ Johnson
Gary Bishop
ALL MEMBERSHIPS
EXPIRE ON Dec. 31st.
Please get your
renewals in ASAP!
Banquet DonorsThese Donors
Supported us big time, RETURN
THE FAVOR!
Dick Williams Guns
Shaper’s The Salon
Saint Charles Coin Shop
Gander Mountain
YMCA of Saginaw
Jim Redmond’s Auto Repair
Draper Toyota
Wohlfeil’s Hardware
Cooper’s Frame & Art
H & B Equipment
Country Club Dry Cleaners
Staples
Hi-Tech Optical Inc.
Wells Fargo Advisors
Euchre
Has returned to SFSC. If you have
time Thursdays from 1PM to 4 PM
in the club house. Doors open at
12 Noon.
Civilian Marksmanship Program
Saginaw Field and Stream Club is affiliated with the Civilian Marksmanship Program. Refer to Our Number
56200
All Memberships expire on
December 31st of the year.
A Word from the President
Mike Meyer
I need to follow up on a couple of items from previous
columns. First of all, if you recall from the May newsletter, I spoke about House Joint Resolution EE. Apparently, some of you did contact Rep. Tim Kelly to
voice your opinion on the attempted raid on the Natural Resources Trust Fund. As far as I know, this resolution is now dead in the water. I suspect however,
that it may be reintroduced after the upcoming election.
Secondly, in the June newsletter, I reported on Graymont’s attempt to purchase about 11000 acres of Upper Peninsula land near Rexton to mine limestone.
Graymont is a Canadian company and I believe it is
bad policy to sell Michigan land to a foreign entity. A
long-term lease would allow Graymont to mine the
limestone, yet allow the state to enforce the terms of
the transaction. This situation has still not been resolved. In fact, Graymont has submitted a separate
application proposing the exchange of more than
1700 acres of mineral rights they have scattered
throughout Chippewa and Mackinac counties for mineral rights in about 3 square miles near Trout Lake.
The DNR is still accepting public comment on this
matter, as well as reviewing input from various committees and subcommittees. This will continue until
DNR Director Keith Creagh makes a final decision on
the proposal. If you wish to let the DNR know your
position on this matter, you can still provide comments
to the following eMail address:
Don’t forget to vote Yes on the two scientific wildlife
management proposals. This should put the final nail
in the coffin of the Humane Society’s anti-hunting initiatives in Michigan. Then, after the election is over,
and the results are in, come out to the club and either
celebrate your victories, or ease your frustrations by
shooting some paper or clay targets.
Pistol Training Committee
The Pistol Training Committee completed its last regularly
scheduled CPL class for the year on October 11th. We
would like to thank those who volunteered their time to assist with setting up the CPL Classes. A big thank you to
Rick Wendzik and his crew:
Bill Labrake, Larry Brumwell, John Welton, Mike
Mosca, Jim Bow, Andy Graves, Wayne Hartwig
A thanks also to Joey Lee and Erin O’Rourke for their help
as Range Safety Officers and Coaches.
The Pistol Training Committee conducted an NRA Pistol
Range Safety Officer Class this year and produced several
NRA Certified Range Safety Officers to provide an added
measure of safety and security on the club’s pistol ranges
and events.
The Pistol Training Committee also offers a program of
several education and training disciplines such as, What
You Need To Know Before You Buy Your First Hand Gun,
Firearm Safety In The Home, Pre and Post CPL Training
Classes to enhance both safe handling and improved
shooting and accuracy skills.
DNRGraymontProposalComents@Michigan.gov.
Please see the Training Brochure with a list of training and
Speaking of the upcoming election - Please be an in- educational classes and download a copy from the Sagiformed voter. Find out what you can about the vari- naw Field and Stream website.
ous candidates. Determine their past history. Determine whether or not they supported our current president, Obamacare or gun control, or any other issue
that’s important to you. Don’t vote for a candidate, or
a party because that’s the party that you and your
family have always voted for. Ideologies change. The
Democratic and Republican parties are not the same
parties they were 50 years ago. Find out what they
stand for now, and vote for the candidates that are
most closely aligned with your idea of the way things
should be.
The Pistol Training Committee has not had a lot of interest
shown so far in these course offerings and hopefully it because members were simply not aware of them.
If there are topics or areas of interest you would like to pursue with regard to Pistol Training and Education, please
make your interests known by contacting the committee
chairman, Don Squires at: sectera@ charter.net or call:
989.7376924 and we will present programs and classes
that are of interest to you.
Activities at Saginaw Field and Stream Club, November 2014
Sunday
Monday
Tuesday
Wednesday
Thursday
Friday
Saturday
November 2
3
4
5
6
7
8
Sight In days
8AM-4PM
Sight In days
8AM-4PM
Sight In days
8AM-4PM
Sight In days
8AM-4PM
Sight In days
8AM-4PM
Sight In days
8AM-4PM
Sight In days
8AM-4PM
Thomas Twp.
PD Pistol, UpperRange 10A-2P
Trap & Skeet
3PM
10
Sight In days
8AM-4PM
11
Sight In days
8AM-4PM
9
Sight In days
8AM-4PM
12
Sight In days
8AM-4PM
17
Women’s Shooting Alliance
1 PM
18
13
Sight In days
8AM-4PM
IDPA/Defensive
Pistol Practice
3PM
Trap & Skeet
3PM
16
Trap & Skeet 10
AM
IDPA/Defensive
Pistol
Practice
3PM
19
Trap & Skeet
3PM
20
14
State Police
Upper Range
9A-12PM
Sight In days
8AM-4PM
21
15
Opening Day
Firearm Deer
Season
Trap & Skeet 10
AM
22
Trap & Skeet 10
AM
IDPA/Defensive
Pistol Practice
3PM
Dinner 6PM
Membership
Meeting 7 PM
23
30
24
25
Board of Directors meeting
7PM
Trap & Skeet
3PM
December 1
2
PSE Pro Staff
Meeting CEC
Bldg private party
10A-4PM
Archery
Call Rob @ 989-971-8540
Pistol
David 989-928-9821
Trap & Skeet
3PM
26
27
28
Thanksgiving
3
4
www.saginawfieldandstream.com
Trap & Skeet 10
AM
5
IDPA/Defensive
Pistol Practice
3PM
29
6
Trap & Skeet 10
AM
The web site calendar is updated
almost daily. The web site takes
precedence over this.
Please check the web site.
The Trap & Skeet Field
Mike Meyer
We hosted a group of Nexteer engineers for an outing at a Tuesday Trap & Skeet open shooting event.
About 25 engineers scheduled an outing with us and showed up to shoot some trap, play euchre and
cribbage. A couple of the guys ventured down to the rifle and pistol ranges as well. After all had their
fill of shooting, they settled in for a catered meal. Thanks are due to our range officers, on the bullet
ranges, Greg King for coaching on the trap range and to our scorekeepers. Thanks are also due to the Nexteer guys for
having their outing with us.
We will be having a second mini-tournament on November 1, consisting of a round of skeet and a round of trap. The
twist is that the trap round will feature random singles and doubles, and three shots are allowed per single or double on
both skeet and trap. This is billed as “duck practice”. The shooter with the most broken targets will take home 75% of
the pot.
The following shooters broke 25 straight September 23rd through October 21st:
Trap
Skeet
25 Straight
Larry Fehn - 3
Bill Otter
Dan Moore
25 Straight
- None -
These local businesses have gone out
of their way to support Saginaw Field
and Stream Club
Saginaw Auto Polishing
Print Express
Hammer Restoration
Dean Flora, D.C., M.S.
Monk's Tree Service, Inc.
Erskine's Feed & Supply
Apple Mountain
Bay Archery
Gary Warner & Sons Electric
Homecraft Companies
Hoffman's Power Equipment
Inc.
Lone Star Western Store
G.E. Masonry
Fasan Jager Upland Preserve
LLC
Bare's Sport Shop
NAPA Auto Parts of Shields
IMALLTECH LLC Computer Services
Totten Tire Center
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The Women’s Shooting Alliance
The October meeting of the Women’s Shooting Alliance
met on Saturday, October 18th at the club. The topic this
month was “drawing from a holster” with step by step drills
followed by a discussion on the various types of carry positions.
This month’s meeting also featured a drawing for a beautiful leather concealed carry purse donated by Cabelas. Erin
O’Rourke won the draw and now is enjoying her prize.
The highlight of the day was our annual pumpkin shoot.
After practicing live fire drills of drawing from the holster, the
women placed their pumpkins up on the berm and took
aim. Some of the ladies were shooting defensive “hollow
point” ammunition and it was particularly notable to see just
how this ammunition works. The holes going into the pumpkin may have been small but the exit holes were not! It was
a
great
afternoon
of
learning
and
shooting.
lenge us all on our defensive and competitive shooting
skills. They will start around 3:00 on the range getting everything ready. This is after they’ve researched via the internet the stages being used and designed by various clubs
and groups across the country. As our group has grown, we
are now running 2 stages simultaneously. Generally, one
stage will be more designed for building/practicing basic
skill sets and the other will be more of a “real life” scenario
to challenge shooters on a variety of targets, some popping
up, some swinging, and some moving and so on. It’s a fun
and challenging!
Our group has grown each week and more and more are
coming out to “see what it’s all about” and most return the
next week to shoot. I would urge anyone who wants to
brush up on their shooting skills and learn good, safe techniques to improve your overall shooting to join us. We are
generally ready to roll around 4:00 and will shoot until everyone is done..now with the lights, that could be until 8:00. It
costs $5 to shoot!
Practical Handgun Training
From time to time, Saginaw Field and Stream Club is
able to offer unique training opportunities for our
members. On October 19th, The Practical Handgun
Training Class was offered and 5 members spent the
Our next meeting will be on November 16th in the club day learning from Master Class, 5 gun Champion of
house. Please join us if you are interested in learning more state, national and international IDPA, USPSA,
about guns, shooting and self defense! Call or email Joey ICORE IPSC and Steel Challenge competitions Gary
Cuttitta.
Lee at 989-996-0397 or JoeyLee1911@yahoo.com.
Saginaw Field and Stream IDPA/
Defensive Pistol Practice
The group will continue to meet on Thursdays throughout
November and into December. As the light fades earlier
and earlier, we will flip the switch on the lights down on the
range and keep shooting each Thursday until the snow
comes and it gets too cold to shoot.
Each week, Carl Hubinger and David Anderson come up
with some pretty amazing and creative “stages” to chal-
The class started at 8:00 a.m. on a cold but sunny day
and went all day. “I’ve taken a number of classes over
the years but this one was one of the best. Gary’s dynamic personality and years of experience in competitive shooting brought a whole new perspective to
training. The specific skills sets, tips and drills are applicable to defensive shooting as well as competitive
shooting says Joey Lee. “Having the opportunity to
work with Gary in a small class provided a a lot of personalized training and each of us that attended definitely got their money’s worth”!
The Club is interested in learning from you on what type of
training you’d like to see offered. Let any of the board
members know if you have a specific interest in any area of
the shooting and archery areas. There are some great resources out there and with the facilities here at Saginaw
Field and Stream, it’s a perfect place to bring great training
programs.
October, 2014, NATURAL RESOURCES REPORT
The Lake Huron Citizens Advisory Committee is working
on plans to bring back the Lake Huron fishery. The main
problem is a lack of food. The invasive muscles have
devastated the plankton on which the young of the year
feed. This effects the prey base on which the growing
and adult fish feed. Two conditions which are being addressed are the slow growing walleye and the lack of
perch. Perch have become the go to food for walleye
and even though perch bring off large year classes, the
young don’t make the first year because the muscles filter out the their food source. The walleye have little to
feed on and grow slow. In addition, there is an overabundance of walleye, particularly in the Bay, which further contributes to the slow growth. There are number of
proposed solutions to the lack of food, all of which are
long term solutions. For example, bringing in lake herringo add to the prey base. It would take a long time for
lake herring to become established in sufficient quantities to impact the food shortage. Not that it’s not a good
idea, just that it is a long term solution and who knows
what will happen in the mean time. Short term perch/
walleye solutions might be to increase the bag limit on
walleye, reduce the legal size and have no closed seasons. This could allow more food therefore increasing
the size of walleyes and take some pressure off the perch
allowing more to survive. Changes like these would
have to be on a year to year basis and closely watched.
The evening before the Natural Resources Commission
(NRC) meeting we toured the Tippy Dam Recreation area. The CO there told us about the snagging problems.
It seems the snaggers come out of the woodwork every
fall in great abundance. I thought snagging had gone by
the wayside long ago, but that’s not so. One good thing
is the local judges are strong supporters of the ban on
snagging and levee some heavy fines on the violators to
the tune of $400.
There were a lot of bass folks addressing the Commission supporting the proposed changes. Elk, however,
were the heated topic of the day. The farmers in elk
country are having problems with crop damage. It
seems that fencing, even electric fencing, will not stop
elk. They just walk right through it. And they devastate
an area far more than deer. Some were requesting a
special elk lottery for local farmers only, others want the
elk gone. I don’t understand how a lottery for one farmer
is going to help and I don’t think special lotteries are the
way to solve the problem. Some were threatening to go
to the legislature. That ought to be a big help? This is
not a new problem and exists with deer, turkeys, raccoons, geese, etc. I have not heard of a solution to this
problem that is effective. Even reducing the herd has not
worked. Crops are too easy a food source for wildlife. I
think the farmers need to accept the conditions of their
business. Wildlife problems are no different than weather and disease. I also think the state should not add to
the problem by allowing wildlife populations to grow in
excess of the available habitat.
We need to keep in mind that the conditions I described
in Lake Huron and the elk problem are not easily responded to or controlled. Nature changes things without
consulting us and often does it in a very sneaky manner.
Often there is a move to reduce a population and a bad
winter or spring does it for us and then there is effort to
bring back the population and nature provides the conditions which cause an explosion of young. Not offering
excuses, but we must understand that sound wildlife
management is far from exact.
Graymont, the Canadian limestone company that wants
to buy 15,000 acres of state land in the U.P., has made a
new offer. I have not reviewed the proposal in detail, but
the summary tells me they are casting a few bones in the
hope of getting a favorable response. We remain adamantly opposed to this size of a sale of state land. Or
even 1% of this size. Leasing is the way to handle mining
and drilling operations. With, of course, a premium being paid for the extractions. A lease allows the state to
retain control and assures access for hunting and fishing,
and, results in the same local economic benefit. A sale of
this magnitude would establish a precedent which could
lead to a significant loss of land set aside for public use.
The Parks Committee led off the NRC meeting. Each
time they meet they showcase a park and this time it was
Mitchell State Park and the Howard T. Johnson Hunt and
Fish Center in Cadillac. This is a nice camp ground with
a lot to see in the area. In addition to the Johnson facility
there is Tippy Dam and the Little Manistee Weir. Fishing
the canal between Lake Mitchell and Lake Cadillac provides some nice shore fishing. I have hunted the Cadillac area for many years and have visited the Johnson facility often. It is well worth a trip. Never got to fish that
Jim De Clerck
canal but I am told it is quite productive.
There are some bass fishing regulations in process which
will allow year round catch and release, in addition to the
regular seasons. Part of the reason for the changes is to
allow tournaments to be held during times when they will
not interfere with sport anglers. These tournaments have
a significant impact on the local economies. My experience with bass has always been catch and release (never
cared for bass as an eater but always fun to catch) and I
have found them to be most resilient and able to handle
releasing with little or no mortality.
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Officers
President……… Mike Meyer
Vice President… Rob Komyathy
Membership Sec ..Joey Lee
Treasurer……… James L. De Clerck
Recording Sec..... .Greg King
989-274-4078
989-971-8540
989-996-0397
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Club Grounds 989-642-8312
Committee Chairs
Rifle Range………..Rick Wendzik
Archery…………… Rob Komyathy
3-D Archery……… Rob Komyathy
Cowboy Action……Marty Bell
Trap & Skeet………Mike Meyer
Pistol Range………David Anderson
Black Powder……..Greg Menard
CPL Training……...Don Squires
Meeting Programs Charles Hoover
Volunteer Coordinator R. Komyathy
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