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The South Barrow Team - Useful Contacts
Team Rector
& Rural Dean
of Barrow:
Revd Canon Gary M. Cregeen, The Rectory, 98 Roose Road,
Barrow-in-Furness, LA13 9RL.
Tel. 01229 877367
Email: GMCregeen@btinternet.com
Team Vicar:
Revd Jo Northey, The Vicarage, 31 Middle Hill
Barrow-in-Furness, LA13 9HD
Tel. 01229 364246
Email: revjonorthey@gmail.com
The Magazine of the Parishes of St Aidan’s,
St George’s with St Luke’s and St Perran’s,
Barrow-in-Furness
TEAM TALK
Assistant Curate Revd Matt Hornby, The Vicarage, 98a Roose Road ,
Barrow-in-Furness, LA13 9RL.
Tel. 01229 877755
Email: hornby.matt@gmail.com
Churchwardens:
Mr Ted Fenton (St George’s w. St Luke’s & St Perran’s)
01229 820408
Mr Peter Gardner (St Aidan’s)
01229 825870
Mrs Geraldine Southam (St George’s w. St Luke’s & St Perran’s) 466327
Mrs Madge Wignall (St Aidan’s)
01229 820484
PCC Treasurers:
Mrs Pat Liddicott (St George’s w. St Luke’s & St Perran’s)
Mrs Sheila Simpson (St Aidan’s)
01229 839563
PCC Secretaries:
Miss Alison Otto (St George’s w. St Luke’s & St Perran’s)
Mrs Carole Williamson (St Aidan’s)
01229 825802
01229 826017
Vergers:
Mrs Geraldine Southam (St George’s w. St Luke’s & St Perran’s) 01229 466327
Mr Keith Cockburn (St Aidan’s)
01229 826692
Hall Lettings Secretaries:
Mr Ted & Mrs Ruth Fenton (St George’s & St Perran’s)
Mr Keith Cockburn (St Aidan’s)
01229 820408
01229 826692
Weekly Team Newsletter: Judy Cowsill
01229 829710
Team Website: Matt Hornby (details as above)
Poppies at the Tower of London
November 2014
The South Barrow
Team Ministry
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Sunday Worship November 2014
2 November
9 November
*9.30 am Morning Worship at St Aidan’s
*10.30 am Holy Communion (CW) at St George’s
11 am Holy Communion at St Perran’s
3 pm Messy Church at St Georges
REMEMBRANCE SUNDAY
*9.30 am Holy Communion (CW) at St Aidan’s
*10.30 am Holy Communion at St George’s
11 am Morning Worship at St Perran’s
16 November
10.30 am TEAM COMMUNION SERVICE at St George’s
inc. OPERATION CHRISTMAS CHILD SHOE BOX APPEAL
23 November
CHRIST THE KING
*9.30 am Holy Communion (CW) at St Aidan’s
*10.30 am Baptisms at St George’s
11 am Morning Worship at St Perran’s
30 November
ADVENT SUNDAY
9.30 am Holy Communion (CW) at St Aidan’s
*10.30 am Holy Communion at St George’s
11 am Morning Worship at St Perran’s
3 pm MESSY CHURCH in St George’s Hall
6 December
*9.30 am Morning Worship at St Aidan’s
*10.30 am Holy Communion (CW) at St George’s
11 am Holy Communion at St Perran’s
3 pm Messy Church at St Georges
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We would like to provide an opportunity for local businesses and
organisations to advertise in the
magazine. While providing publicity
for the advertiser and income would
support the local church in South
Barrow. At the back of church there
are letters for would-be advertisers,
along with details of cost, depending
on the size of the advert. Do you
know individuals, organisations or
businesses who may be willing to
support the magazine in this way?
If so, pick up the details and pass
them on. Thank you
TEAM TALK
The next edition
of TEAM TALK
will be
the
DECEMBER/JANUARY Edition.
News items and articles should
be forwarded to the Team
Rector by SUNDAY 23
NOVEMBER at the latest.
Please see contact details
on page 16 Thank you.
The annual subscription for Team
Talk is only £5 for the year (if
posted, please add £5).
Cheques should be made payable
to:
‘St George with St Luke PCC’
and forwarded to:
Miss Pat Hughes,
24 Kent Street,
Barrow-in-Furness, LA13 9 QT.
If you pay UK Income tax please
consider making your subscription
into a donation and Gift Aid it.
Thank you
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Barrow Foodbank News, provided by Sheila Simpson, Team Co-ordinator
Thank you to everyone who donated items for the Foodbank at the recent
Harvest Services. Special thanks to the St Aidan’s Rainbows and Brownies
who arranged the display, led prayers and sang so beautifully for us at St
Aidan’s. Well done girls!
Several schools and churches have supported the Foodbank with Harvest
donations, helping to build stocks again. If you can spare an hour or two to
help at the Foodbank, or at the special collections at Tesco on Thursday 27th,
Friday 28th and Saturday 29th November 2014 please contact Ann Mills at
projectmanager@barrowfoodbank.co.uk, or Sheila Simpson on 839563. As
well as the usual tinned and dried foods, UHT milk and fruit juice and
toiletries, the Foodbank would welcome Christmas cakes, puddings, biscuits,
mince pies and boxes and bars of chocolate, also selection boxes to give a
little cheer to children who will not have a lot of presents on Christmas Day.
A HAND-KNITTED SCARF – an ideal Christmas gift!
Pat Crookes has continued to be busy hand-knitting an array
of colourful neck scarves. At only £10 each they make the
ideal Christmas gift and they’re practical too! To view a selection of scarves or to place an order please contact
Pat (01229 821752). All proceeds to St Aidan’s ‘Fit For
Purpose’ Fund. Thank you Pat!
St Aidan's envelopes
The weekly envelopes for next year are now available. Your name and
address will be on the box with the same number as this year's. If you can
deliver any boxes to those who cannot attend regularly, please do.
There are also Gift Aid declaration forms available for anyone who is a UK
taxpayer, and has not previously completed one. If you would prefer to
make regular donations by standing order, forms are available for you to
complete and return to your bank.
For more information, see Sheila Simpson, or telephone 839563.
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SHARING YOUR STORY
Some Christians seem to be incredibly confident about
sharing their faith, but most of us feel unsure. We
would love our family and friends, and even the people
we meet, to somehow get to know a little of what our
Christian faith means to us, and might mean for them.
But how?
'Sharing your Story' is not designed to give you all the answers or turn you into
an embarrassing or annoying God-botherer. It is designed for ordinary Christians who would like to be a little braver and a little better about helping others
connect their life with God. Jesus last words to His disciples were "you will be
witnesses for me". 'Sharing your Story' will help you gently, carefully and more
positively witness to people around you. Each of the sessions will be led by
Bishop Robert. He writes, "Although I often get to stand up and talk about my
faith, I really struggle making conversation with family and friends. It just doesn't come easily for me. So in many ways 'Sharing your Story' will be about me
learning along with everyone else. What we look at will be simple, practical and
do-able. This isn't a course for 'high power' Christians who want a boost.
'Sharing your Story' is for 'ordinary' Christians who want to use the
opportunities around them to bring God into the picture."
'Sharing your Story' will be at 9.30 am (until 12.30 pm) on:
Saturday 22 November at St Aidan's, Newbarns.
This session will be led by Bishop Robert and will be both informal and informative—no one will be ‘put on the spot’. Refreshments will be served.
This session is open to everyone.
THE ‘BELIEVE... IN BARROW’ PRAYER
Almighty God, who called your Church to witness that in Christ you were
reconciling the world to yourself: help us so to proclaim the good news
of your love through the Believe in Barrow Mission, that all who hear it
may be reconciled to you through him who died for us and rose again
and reigns with you in the unity of the Holy Spirit, one God,
now and for ever. Amen.
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The South Barrow Team Register
Baptisms
19 October Lilly-Mae Grimes (B:17 October 2013) @ St Aidans
26 October Otto Teema Jennens (B: 27 May 2014) @ St Georges
26 October Nevaeh-Grace Louise McQuire (B:6 January 2014) @ St Georges
26 October Aaliyah-Rose Linda Wharton (B: 4 May 2013) @ St George’s
Weddings
5 October
25 October
Luke Bratton & Laura Eastwood @ St Georges
Scott Hill & Claire Lorraine Loake @ St Georges
Funerals
We extend our sympathy to the family and friends of:
17 October
17 October
20 October
22 October
27 October
28 October
29 October
Jamie Newby (40) @ Thorncliffe Crematorium
Phoebe Wadsworth (91) @ Thornclifee Crematorium
Joan McGill (88) @ Thorncliffe Crematorium
Carmela Clayton (67) @ Thorncliffe Crematorium
Kye Backhouse (13) @ Thorncliffe Crematorium
Amenia Ferguson (88) @ St Aidan’s Church
Sylvia Griffiths (90) @ Thorncliffe Crematorium
Enquiries about Thanksgiving for the Birth of a Child, Baptism, Weddings,
Renewal of Marriage Vows and Funerals should be directed to the
Reverends Gary Cregeen, Jo Northey or Matt Hornby. Thank you
REMEMBRANCE SUNDAY
Sunday 9th November 2014
9.30 am Holy Communion (CW) at St Aidan’s
10.30 am Holy Communion (CW) at St George’s
11 am Holy Communion (CW) at St Perran’s
Join us as we remember with gratitude those who have given their lives
in past and present conflicts, and who are currently serving in places like
Afghanistan, Iraq & Syria. God will remember them… will you?
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News for St George’s CE Primary School...
Summer holidays over and September and October have been very busy . We
began with our Harvest Festival held in Church with children from the whole
school including Nursery reciting poetry and singing harvest songs to the delight of
many Parents and Carers who came to watch. Gifts of tinned food given for the
Harvest this year were taken to our local Food Bank.
The Big Coffee Morning organised by The Friends of St George (PTA) and Mrs K
Albury and other members of staff was a huge success raising over £650.00 for
Macmillan Cancer appeal. Cakes were donated by staff, parents and carers as well
as cakes made by children in school. A very enjoyable morning and we even had a
report and photographs in the Evening Mail. Well done to all who took part.
Children from Year 6 have taken part in a Long Distance Run held at Barrow Park
and Reception class have visited Furness Abbey. The last week of term school held
a disco kindly organised by the Friends of St George great music along with hot
dogs, sweets and a drink . PTA also took some children to Blackpool illuminations.
School is supporting Boxes of Hope Cumbria this year with donations for the boxes
to be taken to Mrs Smith in Nursery before 6th November; once all donations
have been received selected children will help to pack the boxes during school
time, Year 6 children have been very involved in a project with our local paper, The
NW Evening Mail. This is part of a larger project linked to Furness Education &
Skills Partnerships. The aim is to allow children to work on skills appropriate to the
workplace and raise aspiration and pride in our young children. After a visit to the
Evening Mail the children have worked exceptionally hard as a team to put together their own newspaper. The final part of this project with the Evening Mail
involved a visit to the Press Hall in Carlisle. This was the first time ever that a project of this nature had happened, resulting in our very own, 8 page newspaper for
each member of school and immediate community. We were grateful to the Evening Mail for arranging and funding this visit, but there was one small problem, the
Press Hall print early and we needed to leave School at 5am, to be in Carlisle to see
our Paper come off the press rolls. Our Newspaper was magnificent, WELL DONE
YEAR SIX!
To Remember World War 1, a female artist, will be coming into School to work
with children focusing on War Horses, bringing a Horse into School to meet the
children, hopefully lots of artwork will come from this visit. The whole School will
work to create a Bell pull, this will be connected to the old school bell, and children
and families will have chance to come into school to ring the bell to commemorate, the end of World War 1 at 11th hour on the 11th Day of the 11th Month.
We will remember them.
Sandra Adams.
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Book Aid: Bibles and Christian books wanted
St Georges Mother’s Union
'My name is Jeremy Bond and I am a member of King's
Church Keswick. I am the local area collector for Book
Aid which started in 1988 in response to the
desperate plea for help from Christians in 'book
famine' areas of Africa. Since that time over 20 million
books and Bibles have reached the continent from the
UK and 1 million are being shipped yearly. If you have Christian books and
Bibles to donate please contact me. We can also take Ladybird children’s
books for the schools near the churches and bookshops we work with in
Africa. If you would be interested in being a local collector in these areas
please contact me also: 01768 774425. We have seen thousands of books
and Bibles being donated from the generous people of Cumbria and we
hope that will continue. Please pray for the ministry started and still run by
Bob and Ada Hiley and visit: www.book-aid.org
We held our first meeting on September 9th after the summer break,
with a Holy Communion service led by Rev. Jo Northley, who gave a
thoughtful and sensitive talk. Thank you Jo. We finished the afternoon
with tea and biscuits.
SBT Home Groups
Wednesdays at 1:30 pm & 8 pm
BISHOP’S HARVEST APPEAL
& BARROW FOODBANK
There are two Home Groups in
The Harvest Thanksgiving Services
South Barrow and both meet on
provided an opportunity to thank
Wednesdays - at 1:30pm, at 25
to God for providing for all our
Fenman Court (Martin and Erika
needs and to remember our de- McGhee's - next mtg 12 November)
pendence on Him. Over £311 was
& at 8 pm at The Vicarage, 98a
Roose Road (Matt & Caroline’s).
given by South Barrow Team to
Matt Hornby leads both groups
the ‘Bishop’s Harvest For The
Hungry Appeal’ to help those less
Christianity and Science
fortunate than ourselves overDoes science disprove Christianity?
seas. Also, there was a tremenThe answer is NO, but come along
dous amount of donations for
to one of our Home Groups on
Wednesday 29th October to find
Barrow Foodbank. Thank you to
out why not.
everyone who gave so generously. Jesus said, “Whatever you The Home Groups won’t be meeting
on Wednesday 5 November but
did for the least of these, you did
resume
on Wed. 12 November!
for me” Matthew 25 v.36
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At our next meeting on October 14th, Ruth the community nurse gave a
very interesting talk about the many classes elderly people can join,
showing they don’t have to be alone. Ruth continued by involving us in
armchair exercises, it was very enjoyable and we all benefited, thank
you Ruth!
Our next meeting will be November the 11th when Eileen Jones will give
a talk on Nurse Edith Cavell, so come along as join us. Yours Sylvia
St Luke’s Mother’s Union
On October 2nd we welcomed Andy Ward, the Barrow Deanery
Network Youth Church Leader. He gave a very interesting talk on the
work of The Pulse and his work in bringing life into youth groups in the
deanery. On October 16th our Team Rector, Canon Gary Cregeen, spoke
on this year’s MU Theme: Sowing the Seed. He explained how we can
sow the seed of God’s Word and His love in many ways e.g. welcoming
people to our services, including young people, supporting the Foodbank and the next year’s ’Believe... in Barrow’. Gary’s talk was based on
the Parable of the Sower.
During the last few weeks we have had two lovely outings. On Sunday
28th September some of us attended the service in Carlisle Cathedral
when Gary was installed as an Honorary Canon; while the following day,
on Monday 29th September, the deanery Quiet Afternoon was held at
St Andrew’s, Coniston.—two lovely and uplifting services in two days!
Doreen Finch
PRAYER MEETING
Thursday 6 November at 11.45
am (until 12 30 pm) at St Paul’s
Church
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BUILDINGS UPDATE
ST PERRAN’S
The letter referred to below was distributed in SBT Churches on
Sunday 26 October—spare copies available at the back of church
Please Note: Barrow Deanery Synod voted unanimously that the whole
deanery should be one Mission Community—this is a significant and
exciting decision. More details in the December/January Team Talk!
The Real Advent Calendar is for all ages and is a great
way to share the story of the season - in this case Christmas. Behind each of the 25 windows there is a Fairtrade
chocolate star and a few words from the Christmas
story. Behind the final window there is a 24-page Christmas story booklet to read, keep and enjoy. It's Fairtrade
and donates to The Children's Society.
The REAL ADVENT CALENDAR is available in Tesco now!
It is with regret that the Parochial Church Council, in consultation with Roose
Methodists, has made the tough decision to close St Perran’s Church, Roose.
In 2013, as part of a survey of church buildings across Cumbria, it was determined that the fabric of St Perran’s is in a severe state of disrepair and to invest in the existing building would only extend its life for a further 10 years
or so. The alternative would be to demolish the existing building and build a
new one or to seek an alternative location whereby a Christian presence can
be retained and developed in the Roose, Holbeck and Yarlside area. The latter of these options will be pursued. The current St Perran’s was built in
1967—a pre-fabricated building which has exceeded it’s life expectancy. The
regular users of St Perran’s are the Roose Townswomens Guild, who have
met in the hall for the last 35 years, and the Thursday Coffee Morning hosted
by Roose Methodists. The Townswomen’s Guild have found a new home at
Yarlside School and we wish them continued success in their gatherings. The
Pulse, Barrow Deanery’s network Youth Church, are also currently using St
Perran’s as a temporary base. There continues to be a Sunday Service at St
Perran’s at 11 am each week, as well as two mid-week services on the 1st
and 3rd Thursday of each month. These will continue until a closing date for
St Perran’s is finally decided.
The site will be marketed in the not too distant future and the proceeds of
the sale will be invested entirely in developing the remaining churches within
the South Barrow Team.
The decision to close St Perran’s has not been taken lightly and there will be
an opportunity to recall and celebrate the life and witness of St Perran’s on
Thursday 18 December when it is hoped there will be a display of St Perran’s
memorabilia - more details to follow!
ST LUKES
It is some years since St Lukes closed for public worship and the sale of the
site remains a priority. The steady deterioration of the building is painful to
observe, not least for those for whom St Lukes holds special memories.
Consequently, the decision has been made to demolish the buildings and to
clear the site in readiness for development.
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spiritual” existence. Yet we experience them as good, and Christianity affirms that they are good. It's no coincidence that the most common Biblical
metaphor for the new creation is a banquet!
Another difference is that a physical future gives value to the things we do,
because it shows that God cares about the physical. It's great that the
churches in Barrow took the lead in setting up the Food Bank. That is a
practical, physical expression of the love of God. A God who cares for our
physical state, and not just about disembodied spirits.
The resurrection of the body is a glorious, practical truth. We say it every
Sunday. Let's not take it for granted. Our November sermon series will give
us an opportunity to think some more about how great it is and what
difference it makes.
Matt Hornby
Christmas Shoe Box Appeal 2014
OPERATION CHRISTMAS CHILD sends a message of
hope to children in desperate situations around the
world through gift-filled boxes & Christian literature.
The programme provides an opportunity for
individuals of all ages to be involved in a simple
hands-on project that reaches out to suffering children while focusing on
the true meaning of Christmas – Jesus Christ, God’s greatest gift.
A leaflet providing information about the project, including a list of items
which can be included, is available at the back of church.
You are invited to bring your gift-filled shoe boxes to the
TEAM SERVICE at St George’s on SUNDAY 16 NOVEMBER.
SOUTH BARROW CHRISTMAS FAIRS
Saturday 6 December—more details to follow!
There will be a range of stalls containing a variety of special Christmas
gifts! Book the date and invite your family and friends!
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Curates Comment: Are Christians going to heaven?
Yes, but not for ever!
What we think the future will be like affects what we do now. To give one
example, my daughter Rachel is convinced that when she grows up, she will
be a princess. So she spends her time now wearing long dresses and sparkly
shoes and (thanks to Snow White) sweeping the floor and eating apples.
Jesus assures the dying thief that “Today you will be with me in
paradise.” (Luke 23:43) The Apostle Paul looked forward to dying, so he
could be with Christ. (Philippians 1:23-24) Christians can look forward with
confidence and joy to being with Christ when we die.
But this is only temporary. It is an intermediate state. God's ultimate plan
for His people is resurrection! We believe in the resurrection of the body
(Apostles' Creed). We look for the resurrection of the dead and the life of
the world to come (Nicene Creed).
This talk of physical, bodily resurrection can sound “unsophisticated” to
some. It certainly sounded unsophisticated to the Greek philosophers of
ancient Athens. (Acts 17:32) They believed that the body was an
encumbrance, so ultimate fulfilment would come when the spirit is separated from the body. Yet Paul still preached bodily resurrection to them, because that is what happened to Jesus.
Jesus' resurrection was physical. Thomas could put his finger in the wounds.
(John 20:27) Jesus cooked (John 21:9-13) and ate (Luke 24:39-43) fish with
his disciples, and he broke bread at Emmaus (Luke 24:30). Jesus was
recognisably Jesus.
Jesus' resurrection is an example of what we can look forward to. The
clearest, but by no means the only, treatment of this is the fifteenth chapter
of Paul's First Letter to the Corinthians. (It's no coincidence that the third
and final section of Handel's Messiah consists largely of extracts from this
chapter.) Paul writes:
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But the truth is that Christ has been raised from death, as the
guarantee that those who sleep in death will also be raised. ... 23But
each one will be raised in proper order: Christ, first of all; then, at
the time of his coming, those who belong to him. 24Then the end
will come; Christ will overcome all spiritual rulers, authorities, and
powers, and will hand over the Kingdom to God the Father. (GNT)
Christians who die can expect to “sleep” with Christ. But then, at the end, we
will be raised, just like Christ has already been raised.
Paul anticipates the objection: “How can the dead be raised to life? What kind
of body will they have?” (verse 35) His answer is that our present physical
bodies will be like our future resurrection bodies in the same way that a seed is
like a plant. There is a connection between the two. The plant recognisably
originates from the seed. Yet the plant is greater, more developed. So
resurrection bodies will be greater, better than our present bodies, in ways we
cannot imagine. Yet there will be recognisable continuity. This is the same as
with Jesus' resurrection body. He was recognisably Jesus, yet his new body
could do things that his old body could not.
The physical resurrection of the body is important because God's plan for the
whole world is physical. Passages such as Romans 8 and Revelation 21 (our
sermon series for November!) describe God's plan for a new, restored creation.
God created a good, physical world, but this was spoiled by human sin. The
problem is not the physical world, but our sin. God's plan is to deal with human
sin; then we can enjoy a perfect creation, just as He originally intended.
To put it another way, God's ultimate aim is not for us to go to heaven,
although that's an important step on the way. God's ultimate aim is for heaven
to come to earth.
What difference does this make? What we think the future will be like affects
what we do now. If we think our future is physical, this gives value to the
physical now. We can enjoy the beauty of the Lake District in autumn, the taste
of good food, the sound of our favourite music. The Greek philosophical view is
that these are just temporary, physical things that are inferior to a purely “
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